BCINGUU,

That's going to look awesome when your done!

where can you find roll on primer, or is it better out of a rattle can???????

BCINGUU:

Why did you choose Rustoleum over Brightside?

That stang looks awesome!! I had a friend who dated a girl with a 68 mustang convertible. Tons of fun.

I used a few different types of spray primers, a couple brands of grey and another brand of black primer. no issues in those areas. primer is a must-use for over bondo, otherwise the bondo will suck in the first few layers of good paint you roll onto that area.

Another idea - rather than using primer, you could use a similar color rustoleum as the paint you are putting on. This might be better because the gloss will be increased and you can see if the bondo is straight or not.

So for me I'd get a can of white rustoleum gloss spray, put a couple coats of that over the bondo.. then smooth it out, feather it in and then roll over everything with the brightside.

I learned a few things about bright side last night that I'd like to share.

When I first rolled brightside, I wasn't quite sure what I was doing and just winged it. THe result was a coat that was way too heavy and had wavy lines and rolled marks everywhere and had to sand most of it off.

The second attempt I was afraid of going too thick and rolled everything way too thin and it looked like the hood on the red intgra on the last page. I did the whole car like that for 4 coats or so. When I went to wetsand, I easily burned through all the layers. It was a big disappointment.

My third attempt was last night and it came out amazing. Here's the procedure I came up with. I did not use a foam brush as I found it only made matters worse, leaving behind brush strokes. I started off with a medium level coat, concentrating on getting even coverage with no runs and ignoring any bubbles (as there were tons at this point). I didn't apply much pressure on the roller at all, maybe a light pressure, but definitely more than none at all.

Then I would put the same medium coat on the next panel. When that was done, I went back to the first panel and with no pressure on the roller, went back over the bubbles. If more bubbles appeared, then that section isn't ready for the second roll over (hasn't dried enough yet) or that particular area was thicker or applied after the rest of the panel was. If more show up, wait a few more minutes, then try again. Keep working it until all the bubbles disappear with the roller, they eventually will as the stuff evaporates. Make sure you get all the runs and roller marks out (in case you pressed too hard on the roller).

For the first time in this whole experiment, I can see my reflection almost perfectly in every panel I painted last night. There is noticeable orange peal, but at this stage, it's a 5 footer paint job. Not bad at all for a roller job.

Needless to say, I was starting to get worried that I wasted all this time and money on this project. Things are finally turning around after dealing with runs, adheshion problems, sanding scratches, dust and hair.

Dumping a gallon or two of water on the floor the day before painting helped the dust considerably. Good luck to everyone else and keep at it! You'll get the method down eventually. Hopefully this post will make newbies like me understand the concept and methods a bit easier.

@montanaman - Because I got all excited and only read the first 50 pages before I ran out and bought my paint and supplies! Then I read further and discovered the results people were getting with Brightside, so I bought some of that. I guess the Rustoleum will go up on the shelf.

@spyhunter - I had the same experience as you. The first coat went on way too thick and I had runs, even though I thinned with 5% of the 333 fluid.

@69charger - thanks for the words of sanity, I decided to do my black stripes first because that's a much smaller surface area. Good thing I did.

Here's one thing I learned - don't be afraid to keep running the dry roller over the paint after it's tacked up, and you can press it HARD. I went over my runs and high spots several times. and was able to push it down. Now it's very smooth. It worked a lot better when I went side to side. At first I rolled everything in the stripe direction because that's easier, but when I went side to side the Brightside layed down flat.

I'll post up pix next week. I'm doing Steel Grey with Black stripes and I'm planning to make this car Show Quality. I think I can do it. I only have 1 coat so far and it covered so well I am only going to do one more thin coat after wet sanding! Already it looks just as good as my 2 other show winning mustangs.

Okay, I'm all excited and nothing to do while the paint is drying. Here are pix of my first coat of Brightside. I'm going to wetsand it tomorrow and put on a final thin coat, and that's it for the stripes. Next weekend I'll do the rest of the car.

I got so excited about this project, I skipped my son's open house! I'm a bad father!

Taped for stripes:


Painting:


Lots of bubbles:


Laying down and smoothing out:


Notice the left side is where I started dry rolling after the paint had tacked up pretty solid. I was nervous that I had blown it, but hard rollering took care of the bubbles. It's actually quite flat already but I haven't gone out for more pix yet.

Oh yeah, one more thing. 69charger, YOU ROCK!!!

As far as thinning goes with Brightside, is everyone using the minieral spirits as done with rustoleum or is it smarter to use the brightside thinner? I see if anyone had tried the Brightside thinner but it seems logical that this would work better.

honestly if ur rolling the brightside, u dont need to thin it. a few people have said they sued it straight from the can with good results, and thats what i am doing also.. its much thinner than the rustoleum

Thanks. What is 333?

I guess you don't NEED to thin it but if you put it on thick, be prepared to get a real workout sanding out all the orange peel. Mineral spirits works fine..

Does anyone know if Brightside Black is a true jet black? Or in the sun does it appear to be more of a grayish black?

Basically, I'm wondering how well Brightside Black will match the factory BMW black (schwarz) or if I'm better off trying Interlux's Perfection Jet Black.

Thanks

Hi

where do you get the hardener ?

can you get hardener for Rustoleum ?

can you use another companies hardener with rustoleum ?

I want to use Rustolium with the hardener to do the bottom of my old pick-up, its too much trouble to do 7-8 coats and wetsand it while on your back !

And no one will really see it anyway , its both for covering it all in one color and protection from rusting later.

Thanks for keeping this thread alive !

Beaulieu

Hey 69DartGT,
Your truck turned out great...and did I understand that you have not wetsanded the Brightside?

I have started the body work on my 50 1/2 ton Chevy and then will move on to paint. Since our trucks are similar in size, how much Brightside did you buy and use?

I think that I will use Brightside "Ocean Blue" color....anyone got a picture of theirs in that color or "Largo Blue" ?

old blue