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Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: IMGTX] #2695501
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Well,
carefully took the carb apart being careful not to spill any fuel so i can examine the fuel in the bowls. After removing the lid, the right side was half full and the left side was about 1/8 full, just about to the top of the jet. I filled both bowls up with fuel, but there was no leaks coming from the plastic transfer wells and the epoxy looked good. I even tried to twist them apart but they didn't budge. Floats were adjusted properly and held compressed air when the top was inverted. O-rings may not have sealed perfectly as one looked a little crooked sitting in the body. I will replace the o-rings and see what happens.

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1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan
1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth
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Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: RSI700VIPER] #2695505
09/08/19 04:59 PM
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While your in there take a good look at (or replace) the needle and seat. Trash may have gotten on them.

Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: IMGTX] #2695510
09/08/19 05:21 PM
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Sometimes it takes a bit of time for the leak to show up on the wells. Put the main body on a flat surface and put some kind of liquid in it and let it sit for a few hours or overnight. When you put it back together make sure the main body fits smooth with the base. There are dowels on the bottom of the main body that sometimes need a bit of filing for a good fit.

Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: Y3 70 BEE] #2695592
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Thanks for the additional input. Needle and seats hold air pressure from my compressor so they should hold fuel. Also, when I looked down into the carb past the butterflies, the top of the intake was soaked with gas, not just a couple of drops. I was definately expecting a crack or something more obvious like a dislodged well but everything looks fine. It ran fine for 2 years then something happened overnight. If it were a Holley, I would have said a power valve but not the case here.


1970 Superbird 440 Six BBL, 4-Speed, Dana, FJ5
1969 Daytona Charger 440 4-Speed, Dana, EV2
1971 340 Challenger Conv. Flemington Speedway Pace Car, FC7
1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan
1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth
1969 Talladega Torino, 428CJ
1969 Gurney Special Cyclone Spoiler II, 351 Cleveland




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Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: RSI700VIPER] #2695641
09/09/19 12:45 AM
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I have 3 cars with thermoquads and the alcohol in the fuel used now is a solvent and will eat through the factory epoxy, jb weld, moroso epoxy, seal all and probably most other glues and epoxies. Believe me I know. If you put the bowl over a 2 lb metal coffee can fill it with fuel and leave it for a couple of hours you will see gas leaking out. The only thing I have found that is mostly resistant is marine tex grey epoxy. I have repaired at least 6 bowls for myself and others that were told that the thermoquad carb is a lost cause. All my cars are running ok and have had no leaks for at least 2 years.

Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: surfman] #2695661
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Surfman- I might be having seepage after a few hours, but gas is dripping into the intake and soaking the manifold after a few seconds of shutting off the motor. My problem is not the epoxy holding the well cap on.


1970 Superbird 440 Six BBL, 4-Speed, Dana, FJ5
1969 Daytona Charger 440 4-Speed, Dana, EV2
1971 340 Challenger Conv. Flemington Speedway Pace Car, FC7
1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan
1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth
1969 Talladega Torino, 428CJ
1969 Gurney Special Cyclone Spoiler II, 351 Cleveland




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Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: Y3 70 BEE] #2695785
09/09/19 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Y3 70 BEE
Take it apart and fill the plastic main body with enough water to see if the wells seep. If they seep, carefully remove the wells and scrape off the old glue and glue them back on using SEAL ALL.


I'd use same gas to check for leaks. Gas, or similar oil products ( thinner for example ) goes easier by tiny cracks than water.


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Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: Sniper] #2695787
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by IMGTX


The first two Thermoquads I have rebuild I over tightened the top and crushed the X-rings. DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE TOP. Gentle gentle gentle. You can always snug it a little more later if it leaks out the sides of the top when cornering but you can not buy those X-rings with out the $35 kit. If anyone knows where to get them individually I would love to know.



G902 Primary Well Seal, $3.00


THIS IS SERIOUS? DO THEY HAVE PHENOLIC BOWLS!!! thats AMAZING

wondering what kind of them... here are several dozen of them depening on carb PN


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Re: 1973 340 Thermquad Leaks after Shutting Off, Help! [Re: NachoRT74] #2695826
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Originally Posted by NachoRT74
Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by IMGTX


The first two Thermoquads I have rebuild I over tightened the top and crushed the X-rings. DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE TOP. Gentle gentle gentle. You can always snug it a little more later if it leaks out the sides of the top when cornering but you can not buy those X-rings with out the $35 kit. If anyone knows where to get them individually I would love to know.



G902 Primary Well Seal, $3.00


THIS IS SERIOUS? DO THEY HAVE PHENOLIC BOWLS!!! thats AMAZING

wondering what kind of them... here are several dozen of them depening on carb PN
Do a search on Ebay for Thermoquad you will find all kinds of small stuff like that.

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