Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: CompSyn]
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06/12/19 02:31 AM
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Cab_Burge
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The closest places I can recommend is either Somers machine in Vancouver, WA or Southworth LLC in Eugene, OR Talk to Archie Somers at 360-699-5205 and or Carl or Don at Southworth at 541-431-0556. Call them both and let them know what your doing and see which one you like the best or the least Tell them I (Cab) recommended them to you If they don't tell you what you want to hear then try Valley head Services in Northridge,CA at 818-993-7000 Larry Ofria is the owner and he has been in business for 30+ Yrs specializing in Hi Po head and engine work for racing. I use to race a 1963 Plymouth M.W. car in NHRA stock, I had to learn who was good on machine work, trannys, converters and every thing else in that car and who wasn't worth doing business with I wish I knew a good NHRA stock 440 class racer to send you to for your head work but I haven't race NHRA stock since 1988, the proper valves (that will check legal)can make as much as 20 HP more over a not so good replacement set Good luck on this, to outrun the fastest cars in your class you need as good as or better parts that they have and you have to work harder and smarter to out run them It won't be easy, cheap or quick to occur, DANG IT Good luck, go get them
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 06/12/19 01:55 PM.
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: n20mstr]
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06/12/19 04:36 PM
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Porter Racing Heads gets my vote.
64 Dodge Coronet 440. In progress 1998. Dodge Avenger. 8.35@165. 4400 DA 250” Neil and Parks Slip Joint. 7.36@183. 4600 DA 242" Mullis Dragster. 6.90@ 200mph
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Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: BradH]
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06/13/19 12:09 AM
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CompSyn
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I probably didn't explain it very well. In the original post I said "building an engine around the concept of Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Races (PSMCDR)". So I'm building an engine around a concept of making a “stock” engine go fast, optimized, doing nothing more than carful tuning and attention to detail. I will likely never take my car to Michigan and race it in PSMCDR. So I'm not technically bound by any rules other than me wanting to stick to them. Here's what PSMCDR says about the heads: "Head modifications are prohibited, including, but not limited to, porting, bowl cutting, gasket matching, oversized valves, etc. Heads can be cut to help achieve the allowed compression over advertised." - LINKAnd so, this is what I'm looking for. Do I “need” a pro shop to achieve this goal? Or can I find someone in driving distance that can do the required work?
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Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
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06/13/19 02:00 AM
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CompSyn
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There's lots of HP in a careful valve job, then there's guide clearance and spring height/pressure. I believe it. Are there some key question(s) one might ask a prospective machinist to find out if they’re a true head guru or not so much?
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Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
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06/13/19 09:56 AM
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fast68plymouth
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There's lots of HP in a careful valve job In the context of what the OP is looking to do, I don’t look at it that way. My experience has been, at least when it comes to factory BB and SB heads, there is no “magic” valve job that miraculously yields significant increases is flow. However........ there are certain ways of doing things, and practices that I’ve seen implemented that end up reducing the flow of your stock heads........ and sometimes by a fair amount. So, the “trick” VJ is primarily one that doesn’t make your heads worse than they were....... and maybe boosts the area under the curve a bit. For this type of build it’s best to start with castings that haven’t already previously been subjected to some flow diminishing work(its often not possible to get back what was already lost......... without doing some “other than” valve job type work).
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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06/13/19 04:08 PM
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CompSyn
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There's lots of HP in a careful valve job In the context of what the OP is looking to do, I don’t look at it that way. My experience has been, at least when it comes to factory BB and SB heads, there is no “magic” valve job that miraculously yields significant increases is flow. However........ there are certain ways of doing things, and practices that I’ve seen implemented that end up reducing the flow of your stock heads........ and sometimes by a fair amount. So, the “trick” VJ is primarily one that doesn’t make your heads worse than they were....... and maybe boosts the area under the curve a bit. For this type of build it’s best to start with castings that haven’t already previously been subjected to some flow diminishing work(its often not possible to get back what was already lost......... without doing some “other than” valve job type work). Thanks Dwayne!
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Re: Cylinder Head Work Near Spokane WA?
[Re: CompSyn]
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06/13/19 05:39 PM
06/13/19 05:39 PM
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BradH
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Taking time off to work on my car
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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I probably didn't explain it very well. In the original post I said "building an engine around the concept of Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Races (PSMCDR)". So I'm building an engine around a concept of making a “stock” engine go fast, optimized, doing nothing more than carful tuning and attention to detail. I will likely never take my car to Michigan and race it in PSMCDR. So I'm not technically bound by any rules other than me wanting to stick to them. The factories "blueprinted" (and cheated up) some of their magazine test cars back in the '60s. Might as well make the heads the way they "should" have been and enjoy the extra performance, even if they're still stock OEM castings. Never mind that the PSMCDR camshaft rules are absurd; a "very popular" BB Mopar cam widely used by the participants doesn't even pass their own tech rules.
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