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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........ [Re: 69chargeryeehaa] #26618
01/08/07 03:45 PM 01/08/07 03:45 PM

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i currently have the motor out, mostly just to inspect, winter anyways, now i have the space in my garage!!!! it took me 1 hour, 2 beers to get the motor out with a skateboard and a floor jack!!! ok it took me 20 mins, but i had to have the 2 beers, sit back and laugh; it's too easy, think about all the $ i'll save on coolant!!! lol




That's the beauty of these things - the Corvair trick is an engine cradle made up from some two-by-fours, but it's the same basic principle. And no rad to replace!

Did you have a preference for whose polishing compounds you were using?
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01/08/07 07:00 PM 01/08/07 07:00 PM

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ok so using a freaking sponge sand pad is NOT the way to go, i been sanding different parts of the rear driver side 1/4 pannel on my car and ive only got to the bare mettal on certain parts. and on other certain parts its just the copper coating or what ever it is and then its the original color, then tho bondo and primer.
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01/08/07 07:07 PM 01/08/07 07:07 PM
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I bought a sears craftsman orbital sander they use a 5" hook and loop sanding pad, the one I got is varible speed and really made the sanding part easier.
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01/08/07 07:14 PM 01/08/07 07:14 PM

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I bought a sears craftsman orbital sander they use a 5" hook and loop sanding pad, the one I got is varible speed and really made the sanding part easier.

HA!...what kind of sand paper did you use to get to the bare metal? and did you have to frequently to stop to clean off the sand paper?

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01/08/07 07:19 PM 01/08/07 07:19 PM
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Why go to bare metal? If needed use a stripper of some sort. The paper was craftsman on the really bad area's I used 80 grit and the other areas I used 320. I was surprised at how little paper I used, bought a box of 12 in 220 & 320 but box of 5 in the heavier grits.
Some pic's of progress the last one is pretty close to what I had when I started rolling but hindsite being 20-20 I wish I'd primered the whole truck first.




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01/08/07 07:29 PM 01/08/07 07:29 PM
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Speaking of primer the bed of the truck showed 30+ years of use and since this isn't a show truck I used Rustoleum rusty metal primer straight out of the can and rollered it on, came out so smooth it looked like it had been sprayed.
I did sand and used a heavy rotary wire brush to remove any loose rust or scale first.
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01/08/07 08:23 PM 01/08/07 08:23 PM
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That's the beauty of these things - the Corvair trick is an engine cradle made up from some two-by-fours, but it's the same basic principle. And no rad to replace!

Did you have a preference for whose polishing compounds you were using?



i used turtle wax polishing compound (white paste) and that new turtlw wax ice wax, which i must say is the best wax i've ever used, it takes me less than 30 min to wax a car with that stuff.

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01/08/07 09:54 PM 01/08/07 09:54 PM

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ok so i just got back from orilleys with a few new things for the project, i bought some aircraft stripper for the paint to be removed(awaiting the results on it), some bondo filler(any idea how long that stuff takes to dry and what can i use for a mixing board?) some cardboard and a piece of plastic to slap it on to the areas that need attention? also bought a tack cloth(read that one was needed somewhere in the project) and a paint and rust stripper.(the black circular disk looking thing.) what else should i purchase next time im out at the store? i know i need to make a color selection as well as get the mineral spirit mixer and the roller brush, and some touch up brushes and a mixing pan. is it possible to use the mineral spirits as a cleaner for the brush when i am not using it? or should i try to get it as air tight as possible in a plastic zip-loc bag?

ps- is it possible to get a high gloss silver or a VERY shinny gloss white? i know that i will not need to get any gloss since the paint allready is shiny enough due to proper wet-sanding and buffing.

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01/08/07 11:04 PM 01/08/07 11:04 PM
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If you have a Dollar store near by of Kmart/WalMart buy a cheap plastic cutting board makes a great mixing platform. Plastic speaders are at O'Rielys and such.
The bondo will dry depending on how much hardener you add plus the temp outside.
Gloss white is available with Brightside & rustoleum but I think you are out of luck with the silver.
I do the same with mineral spirits as you are planning no problem just be careful where you store it no flames etc.

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01/08/07 11:17 PM 01/08/07 11:17 PM

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Looking Good.

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Just finished another coat 4th I think have 99% full coverage if this great weather holds I'll do that tomorrow. Looks like the Porter Cable 7424 I got for Christmas will get a lot of use soon What may look like darklines aren't really there must be camera or me?
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Looking Good.

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Just finished another coat 4th I think have 99% full coverage if this great weather holds I'll do that tomorrow. Looks like the Porter Cable 7424 I got for Christmas will get a lot of use soon What may look like darklines aren't really there must be camera or me?






Thanks much I know I'm on my side but I'm really happy how this truck came out, maybe I should have spent more time on body work but the truck is meant to be driven and used as a truck I did fix a bunch of rusted spots but left some dings and dents I missed before the first coat. I think had I primered the whole truck I would have seen these and maybe done more bosy work, IMHO that was a blessing

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01/09/07 12:08 AM 01/09/07 12:08 AM
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so what are the EXACT steps to paint a car? first of all i would believe to strip it all the way down to the metal?


It is rarely necessary to strip an entire car down to bare metal. You make a lot of work for yourself unnecessarily, and using a chemical stripper is no less work in most cases.

You are getting ahead of yourself. Go back and do some reading. You are asking questions that have been covererd several times.

I've said it before, but I'll repeat it here. A great looking paint job depends on the prep work under the paint. Don't rush to start applying paint until you have learned how to do the prep work.
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01/09/07 01:17 AM 01/09/07 01:17 AM

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Well finally went and started on my Talon. I'm starting with the hood (which is already off the car), and I must say it's looking better already, even with only one coat. I'm going with the Brightside Fire Red for the body on this one. Just thought I would post some pics of the progress.

BTW, Marq or 69DartGT; IS this what you guys ended up with after your first coat? Not sure if I got the mixture quite right. It still has quite a few bubbles that didn't roll out or pop when blown on. I will probably have to wetsand it down before the next coat, but I'm really not looking forward to it.

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01/09/07 01:19 AM 01/09/07 01:19 AM

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Another pic from a different angle. You can see some of the leftover bubbles in this one.

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01/09/07 01:21 AM 01/09/07 01:21 AM

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One more pic to share. This is a before shot after sanding and fixing of some bad spots.

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01/09/07 01:51 AM 01/09/07 01:51 AM
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BTW, Marq or 69DartGT; IS this what you guys ended up with after your first coat? Not sure if I got the mixture quite right. It still has quite a few bubbles that didn't roll out or pop when blown on. I will probably have to wetsand it down before the next coat, but I'm really not looking forward to it.



The first coats will be relatively translucent... in that your thin layer of paint will show all the different colors underneath the layer. As the layers of paint are added... you will be building up the skins and less and less of the underlayer will be visible.

By about 4 coats of Brightside or 8 coats of Tremclad/Rustoleum you will have 100% coverage and no longer be able to see the undersurface.

If there are a substantial number of bubble artifacts on a coating... you can do a wetsand to ensure that the surface is completely level before moving on to the next layer of paint.

If there are just a ffew bubble or bug artifacts you can slap on another coat of paint and you should be able to bring everything level with wetsanding on the second coat.

Normally you should be able to get two coats on before wetsanding.

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01/09/07 02:16 AM 01/09/07 02:16 AM

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Heres how mine turned out. I did it in gloss sunburst yellow. I just followed the steps 69charger gave. I still need to wax. The car is wet, its been raining here. Ill get some daytime shots when the rain goes away. Heres the link
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2541873

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01/09/07 03:20 AM 01/09/07 03:20 AM

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all i can say whew im finally done. i have read every post from the begining. all 97 pages. wow. couple of things to say

1. 69chargeryeehaw: kudos along to everyone else who has done this. also, very nice porsche. its not fiberglass junk is it? nice beetles too. im a vdub freak. owned a whole bunch of em. got 2 now. also owned my fair share of mopars. a couple furys and newports as well as d50s and 150s.

2. i have went to school via vocational as well as wyo tech for painting. its in my blood. i paint for CAT now. and i can say i have always sprayed but you have opened a new light for me. i am in the process of restoring a 53 right hand drive and they didnt have bc/cc back then so it would look more period correct to use enamel. plus no mess will be super nice.

3. this is perfect if you have no paint experience and no garage, comp, gun etc and at a fraction of the cost. me, i live in an apt with no garage so this will work out real nice.

4. ill probably use brightside. urethane is the way to go. very very durable and a much higher gloss. plus im used to urethane where i work. we use a 2 part single stage. so maybe i can "borrow" some stuff from work.

5. im also going to experiment with some metallics and clear. as seen here
web pagehttp://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=22&SBL=1[/url]
web pagehttp://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=18&SBL=1[/url]
will let you know how things go with that.

anyways, just lettin you know whats goin on and good luck to all. i will post pics when i can of my progress also. keep on rollin
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01/09/07 04:50 AM 01/09/07 04:50 AM

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Great now I dont know whether to go with Rustoleum Metallic or Brightside, did I read in this thread that you cant roll metallic?

Ill be painting in black.
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01/09/07 05:23 AM 01/09/07 05:23 AM

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Great now I dont know whether to go with Rustoleum Metallic or Brightside, did I read in this thread that you cant roll metallic?

Ill be painting in black.


i heard black is the hardest to do because it shows all the imperferctions???
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