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Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: sharpie] #265526
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those look to be the summit shorties that didn't work for IMGTX in his E body--IIRC in his car the collector hit the steering shaft.

I'm debating if I want to try these edelbrock 66013 headers in my 5th ave



they're slightly longer and might take care of the clearance issue IMGTX had, and they're coated stainless...the downside is they're $460, or $30 more than bare dougs headers (but $130 cheaper than the coated dougs D453's)


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1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!***
2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: patrick] #265527
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do they still make those .525 lift springs?

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: 84Stepside] #265528
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don't forget the nose extension for the camshaft


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Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: Wedgeman] #265529
03/26/09 04:27 PM
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Patrick, though I don't have it in the car right now, it looks like these headers will dump lower than where the steering shaft is. Only time will tell though.

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: sharpie] #265530
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im in the process of the swap right now. I used just regular old a body headers in my dart. They seem to work well, but I have not fired it up yet. I do have to reroute the power steering hose. I have manual brakes so no booster to worry about.


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2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi
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Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: blk00rt] #265531
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yeah hooker/flowtech/tti long-tubes work fine. I was generously given the shorties for free, so I was going to try to use those.

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: sharpie] #265532
03/26/09 10:03 PM
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well I took some very rudimentary measurements and looking at the car, I think I might be able to make the truck manifolds work (remember I have manual steering and brakes so Im at an advantage for space)

Anyone ever have issues with motor mount shims?

I may be able to pull this off with only having to buy the Schumacher mounts


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Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: RangerDan440] #265533
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I just used Schumacher mounts. They come with everything you need. They mount using the LA tabs on the block. I have yet to buy my torque strap, but will be doing that from them soon as well.

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: Wedgeman] #265534
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Quote:

don't forget the nose extension for the camshaft


Daniel




I have the bolt & washer part of the HUG 7011 kit if anyone wants it for $19 shipped, decided to go electric.

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: Wedgeman] #265535
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Gary,

Don't know about the Jeep ones....what would fit is a 68-70 340 style driver's side manifold, the one going upward.....you know ?

Daniel




Yes that would be best but in researching the issue there is two problems.

1) People report a port mismatch at the bottom causing an exhaust leak (either right away or when the gasket burns through due to so little meat being there)

2) Cost of the early "header" manifold.

The older manifolds are nice looking but the cost to power ratio is not there for me and dyno reports back that up.

If I can fit the 92 magnum manfolds in they go toe to toe with the 68-70 340 in regards to flow and there are no sealing issues. If I have to go with the jeep manifolds (which arrived yesterday, I'll take pics today) then at best I'll lose a few hp and live with that.

I'm too old to be changing gaskets every year, I want to assemble the car and go and make it as idiot proof (trouble free) as possible.

Great dyno shoot out on manifolds here-

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...aust/index.html

I intend to compile a lot of information on my website so in the future there is a guide for these conversions.

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Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: RangerDan440] #265536
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Anyone ever have issues with motor mount shims?






When I shoved a 360 in my GTX for a bit I had no problems.

I wonder where the hell that engine is now? The mind goes...

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: gdonovan] #265537
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Quote:

Quote:

Gary,

Don't know about the Jeep ones....what would fit is a 68-70 340 style driver's side manifold, the one going upward.....you know ?

Daniel




Yes that would be best but in researching the issue there is two problems.

1) People report a port mismatch at the bottom causing an exhaust leak (either right away or when the gasket burns through due to so little meat being there)

2) Cost of the early "header" manifold.

The older manifolds are nice looking but the cost to power ratio is not there for me and dyno reports back that up.

If I can fit the 92 magnum manfolds in they go toe to toe with the 68-70 340 in regards to flow and there are no sealing issues. If I have to go with the jeep manifolds (which arrived yesterday, I'll take pics today) then at best I'll lose a few hp and live with that.

I'm too old to be changing gaskets every year, I want to assemble the car and go and make it as idiot proof (trouble free) as possible.

Great dyno shoot out on manifolds here-

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...aust/index.html

I intend to compile a lot of information on my website so in the future there is a guide for these conversions.





jeep manifolds have been discussed before and are a no-go. the jeeps move the starter to the pass side of the engine, so the drivers side jeep manifold dumps right on top of the starter in a normal LA configuration.


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Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: patrick] #265538
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jeep manifolds have been discussed before and are a no-go. the jeeps move the starter to the pass side of the engine, so the drivers side jeep manifold dumps right on top of the starter in a normal LA configuration.




With both style starters?

Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: gdonovan] #265539
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Picture one manifolds- 92, 96 and 96 Jeep

5123424-DSCN2778.JPG (42 downloads)
Re: /6 To 360 Magnum Parts and Labor Checklist [Re: gdonovan] #265540
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Same thing different side

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