Nib Files any idea other then on line where to find these tools? I have a couple of runs around the drip rails I missed.

Since when did you have to be a pro to use a $12.99 HF gun? You can paint a car outside with good results. You can buy paint at a John Deere dealer for less than $30.00 a gallon. How long does the paint on tractors last?

Hey Fireball, why not paint anyway you want if you get the results you are looking for, I say great go for it. As far as the paint fading I am sure it could be polished a couple of times per year and still look good. Even Chargers VW has Tremclad paint on it for over 7 years, mind you I know it's garaged in winter. Southern Ontario, is the same latitude as Northern California, so the summer sun is strong there, to date his paint still looks great.All the best

Nothing wrong with using with what you believe in. You don't get the same amount of sunlight in Canada as you do in AZ. That paint may work well where you are at. What I want to know is what happens to it in the desert. Someone might stumble on to this thread like I did and run out think they are getting a killer paint job cheap only to find out it it looks fine in some places after a while and others it just won't hold up. I posted a link, I don't care if you rip on my cheap paint job.

fireball, i understand what your saying, and i can accept your view. I have sprayed over 10 cars, both single stage and BC/CC. When i was poor i rollerd my first car 15yrs ago, and drove the car for 3 years and 400,000km, while i went thru university in North Bay, Ontario, Canada. Let me tell you about North bay, it snows like CRAZY up there, there were weeks where there was 10ft of snow on my car and they did'nt plow the parking lot. The paint holds up very well, and that's under the hardest conditions, just 2 waxes a year is all i did to maintain the car, here's a pic of my 1985 Honda CRX:


I've personally painted over the tremclad with single stage enamel on a old 1986 mustang gt, and had no issues with the paint another 4yrs later when i sold the car. I've also had a car painted by a shop that i also rollered and that was using BC/CC, no issues.

Not everyone has a huge garage and tonns of $ to give to a body shop to paint their car, the result is that these projects sit in the garage until "one day" when they have enough $ to get it painted.

My 74 beetle as c38coupe stated was painted in 1999, and i've seriously driven that car all summer, for the first 5 yrs i had that car painted with the tremclad it was almost my daily driver, it's seen hundereds of trips to my cottage over 500kms round trip. In those first 5yrs also i put on 35000MI on the car. The paint looks just like the day i painted it, only maintance was waxing 2 times a year, no fading, nothing.

This paint after all is enamel based paint, completely compatable with single stage paints.

I have been following this thread since it was e-mailed to me, and have read every page.

I don't know what I find more fascinating; the number of people who have duplicated 69chargers' efforts with amazing results, or the number of people who haven't tried the roller process and proclaim it a colossal waste of time - or worse.

One even claimed that no reputable body shop would touch it after a roller job - we should all be so lucky.

Thanks to all who have shared their expertise and experience here including; 69Chargeryeehaa, Exit1965, Marq, c38coupe, 69dartgt, aussie driver, and all the others.

I didn't say I wouldn't try it. If they sell that brand here, I will try it out on something first. In fact, I will be more scientific about it. I have a hood that I can paint different samples of paint on and leave it out in the sun. I will take pictures once a month. You name the base you want on the hood first, epoxy or urethane primer. I have samples of Dupont, PPG, HOK, Valspar, Kirker, Rustoleum, and John Deere. Oil base, lacquer, acrylic enamel, acrylic urethane.

Well said, Mike.

The next step seems to be catalyzed/hardened rollable paint, like Interlux Perfection.

Any takers?

I thought the next step might be the media blaster.

fireball, ok, you got us, we're all just out to ruffle your feathers, april fools..... All of us at moparts have been plotting this for years, and thru our collective cooperation, we've had over 2000 replies on this thread alone, with almost what.....50000 views, and finally we all give up, it was all just a joke........hahahaha,.....painting with a roller.......who on earth would be so stupid as to try such a thing???


























shhhhh....is he gone?

Seriously, we are not trying to compete with you, your either with us or aginst us, there's no inbetween........now where's all my roller buddies? we're not here to , we understand you don't like it, but that's why it's a free country, let's just move on and stop please don't make me get out the

If there is no in between then I must be against you roller boy.

Your in trouble if I figure out how to post pictures on this BB.

Ok I'm outta here Cooter.

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Ok I'm outta here Cooter.

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Thankyou, i feel the healing process has begun, i'm glad you restrained yourself and edited out the junk
seriously, try to contribute to the method improving it, we all know in a perfect world that traditional auto paint is better, just that not all of us have the means to do it, or can afford $ to.

I would be interested with your test pannel, with all the other brands of paint, that would be a really good test as to the testimonial of the paint's durability. Prep the pannel bare metal, and with the tremclad/rustoleum painted surface go over it bare metal, no primer, nothing else but the paint, expose to elements, and i think you'll be supprised with the results. I saw another identical test on another board using most of the paints you mentioned, and the 2 paints that came out the best, over time, both submerged underwater in a old swiming pool, and exposed to the elements were POR-15, and rustoleum.

Merry christmas Fireball.

I was going to try the two part marine topside
urethane enamel:http://store.nationalpaintsupply.net/urma2uren.html , but decide to go with the ebay brightside. If its doesn't look the way I want, I can always sand it back down and start over. The 73SB isn't my main drivers so, I have time to work on it at "my" pace. Thats one good thing about the roller method. If I can do a good job on it, I will do my 73 Karman Ghia next.

Thanks to all the people sharing their experience so we all can learn what work and how to fix unexpected problems.

Thanks