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Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? #2648809 04/25/19 11:59 AM 04/25/19 11:59 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 602 Portage Wisconsin Lou_Steger OP mopar
Lou_Steger OP mopar Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 602 Portage Wisconsin	My steering is so sloppy on my '73 Challenger it's scary. I have tried the adjustment screw and it makes no difference. Which company has the better product and customer service?

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: Lou_Steger] #2648854 04/25/19 01:08 PM 04/25/19 01:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY RJS master
RJS master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY	I use Steer and Gear and have always been happy with final product. But since your in Wisconsin I think your closer to FF and they too are excellent so you'll save on shipping. Ron

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: RJS] #2648863 04/25/19 01:35 PM 04/25/19 01:35 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 602 Portage Wisconsin Lou_Steger OP mopar
Lou_Steger OP mopar Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 602 Portage Wisconsin	I think it was Firm Feel that I used about 23 years ago on this box and it has never been right but I don't have my invoice so I don't know. Ohio is closer than Washington

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: RJS] #2648865 04/25/19 01:37 PM 04/25/19 01:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,146 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,146 Mesa, Arizona	Originally Posted by RJS I use Steer and Gear and have always been happy with final product. But since your in Wisconsin I think your closer to FF and they too are excellent so you'll save on shipping. Ron Years ago I bought a box from Steers n Gears. Started leaking a year after install. They wouldn’t accept an exchange. Their customer service to say the least sucked. Went to Firm Feel, didn’t look back “So if it’s on the internet it must be true” Abe Lincoln

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: RJS] #2648866 04/25/19 01:38 PM 04/25/19 01:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 253 Pasadena, Texas F fal3 enthusiast
fal3 enthusiast F Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 253 Pasadena, Texas	I went with FF. Sent the box out; got it back about 2 wks later. Had FF install their #3 rebuild; gives a modern steering feel. Had box rebuilt 2 years ago. Have no experience with Steer & Gear nor have heard negatives about their product and services. To me, FF & S&G are about equal.

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: fal3] #2648867 04/25/19 01:43 PM 04/25/19 01:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 240 New Mexico Geo4K enthusiast
Geo4K enthusiast Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 240 New Mexico	I used FF to rebuild my box. Found that their customer service is fantastic.

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: fal3] #2648913 04/25/19 03:49 PM 04/25/19 03:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass DAYCLONA I Live Here
DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass	Originally Posted by fal3 Have no experience with Steer & Gear nor have heard negatives about their product and services. To me, FF & S&G are about equal. I've had experience with both companies on many builds, customers and my own rides, ....Steer & Gear, I'll just say "Steer Clear" of them, Firm Feel is a much better product and service IMHO, I'd opt for the stage 3 box IMHO, don't bother going with Stage 2, I do hear that a Stage 4 service was in the works, but haven't heard/seen any input on it... Mike

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: DAYCLONA] #2648942 04/25/19 04:57 PM 04/25/19 04:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington M madscientist master
madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	One more for Firm Feel. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: Lou_Steger] #2648985 04/25/19 07:09 PM 04/25/19 07:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,190 SW MO closer9 top fuel
closer9 top fuel Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,190 SW MO	I had FF do a stage II build on mine a few years back. Very happy. I had a lot of questions. Customer service was excellent. Daily: '19 Frontier 4WD Belle: '67 Belvedere Convertible, 318/727 in Go ManGo! Other: '64 C10, 283/3 on the tree

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: closer9] #2649257 04/26/19 12:09 PM 04/26/19 12:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area Mopar Mitch pro stock
Mopar Mitch pro stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area	I have a newly rebuilt FF Stage 3 box (T/A box, fast ratio)... haven't yet run it (car still under re-construction... hopefully by 2020 back to driving/racing). Anyone I know who went with a Stage 2 or 1... said they should've went with the Stage 3... that the Stage 2-1 didn't show that much difference vs original. Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: Lou_Steger] #2649260 04/26/19 12:12 PM 04/26/19 12:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,643 A certified culture free zone. 74RALLYE top fuel
74RALLYE top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,643 A certified culture free zone.	I used a Firm Feel II on one of my 74 Chargers and I'm very happy with it.

Re: Firm Feel or Steer and Gear? [Re: 74RALLYE] #2650627 04/30/19 06:29 PM 04/30/19 06:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 602 Portage Wisconsin Lou_Steger OP mopar
Lou_Steger OP mopar Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 602 Portage Wisconsin	OK I just ordered a stage 3 and it's 5-6 weeks out. I will post up my thoughts.

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