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Three coats and just before the first wetsand.
The 3rd coat actually seemed to give me some good coverage. I hoping only two more to go.
I am using red like you on test piece- (hood). Do you have some imperfections in the final paint job? I seem to have more small foreign objects in the paint job than I would like. I also seem to have some very,very small "dots" in the finish. I do beleive that fine wetsanding & buffing will get it real nice. By the way what are you thinning with? Thanks!
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I am using red like you on test piece- (hood). Do you have some imperfections in the final paint job? I seem to have more small foreign objects in the paint job than I would like. I also seem to have some very,very small "dots" in the finish. I do beleive that fine wetsanding & buffing will get it real nice. By the way what are you thinning with? Thanks!
I'm using mineral spirts to thin, the small dots are maybe air bubbles that didn't pop, my first attempt I didn't thin enough and had lots of bubbles it was so bad I sanded most of the first coat off. All the rest of the coats I use two roller one with paint follwed in a few minutes with a dry roller. Some defects but I think the wet sanding will help, I'm told don't get carried away with the wet sanding inbetween coats.
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Early on there was some talk about a clear coat that Tremclad offered in Canada. I was diappointed to learn that nothing was offered in the US by Rustoleum. I may have found a substitute: http://everbrite.net/coating_properties.htmlAnyone ever heard of this stuff? I called and they said that it can be applied over new paint like Rustoleum after 30 days of drying. This looks like it may have great potential for enhancing the final results of the roll-on paint method. Says it's self leveling too.
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As has been said in the post before I personally wouldnt apply a clear coat as it cancels the possibility of touching up the paint after chips, scratches and other...
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there is a rustolium clear coat, though it is only in a spray bomb can. i use it on my buick with the gloss black and it works great. pn is 7701 cost 3.54 a can. it self levels and it fills in small scratches or pits.
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So are the folks using Brightside cutting it with mineral spirits or the interlux product they recommend?
From reading the thread, it seems that they thinning and application of the paint is fairly easy to learn. It seems that it is the wet sanding and polishing that is the toughest thing to do right a pays the most benefits. My question is for a non painter how tough is this to learn? Is it simply following the prgression of finer grit paper each time and the same with the polishing. How hard is it to get a scratch free swirl free, glossy finish?
I don't want my $50 paint job to look like, well, a $50 paint. Job.
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You don't need to use oil based paint to get an inexpensive paint job with good results. The on sale $12.99 Harbor Freight gravity feed gun will put on paint with excellent results. You can also buy automotive grade paint for not much more than you are paying for the oil based paint. www.smartshopperinc.com
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Yes I have to agree with you Exit, we all know if we choose we could use a HVLP and go to town with single stage, with the mess, extra masking, dust and doghair. Thats why if you have the desire you can paint your ride with a sponge roller, by executing the techniques outlined on this thread, you can achieve a really decent paint job for a lot less money that it would cost you to have it professionally done. The good news is, if you don't like the results, you can get it painted, you are only out a small amount of money and your own time.To date I have seen some very good paint jobs on this thread. Price, less  mess, do it myself and learn, heck it doesn't get much better. Have a Merry Christmas yall who have visited this thread, I hope you have found it very informative, I know I have.......C38 Coupe 
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This has already been beaten to death. Benefits of rolling: no special tools, no overspray, no inhaling poison, very short learning curve, and also it's fairly relaxing.
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The good news is, if you don't like the results, you can get it painted, you are only out a small amount of money and your own time.
This should be qualified a little. If you don't like your results and you take the car to a professional shop to have it repainted, expect that cost to be higher than if you hadn't messed with it to begin with. You may even find that some shops won't even work on it.
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Hey 69Dart--your truck is looking like my Jeep now. And the progression from coat to coat looks just like what I experienced. I ended up with 7 coats of the Brightside. Also, I experienced the little "dots" or bumps in my paint, too. Originally, I thought they were bubbles that I did not pop, but in the succeeding coats I made sure to remove all the bubbles (I found that using a foam brush or a China bristle brush [good suggestion by Montana Man] was a lot better than another roller, which when rolled over wet paint just got wet and made more bubbles for me). I just kept on painting though, and did not do any wet sanding or polishing yet (I did not have enough time to let it cure before taking it to the farm). When I bring it back to the city in the springtime I will then try the polishing and stuff, just to get it a little smoother--hopefully the bumps will smooth out. You really cannot see them unless you get right on top of it, but I still would like to see if I can get them off.
Also, Brentville, I see you are in St. Louis, as I am. If you have any questions about the process or just want to talk about it, let me know.
Merry Christmas everyone!
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The good news is, if you don't like the results, you can get it painted, you are only out a small amount of money and your own time.
This should be qualified a little. If you don't like your results and you take the car to a professional shop to have it repainted, expect that cost to be higher than if you hadn't messed with it to begin with. You may even find that some shops won't even work on it.
That's why you expirement with it on a old hood, see if you like it, then go from there. If it works and you like it, then you paint your own car and your   .
besides, nothing a few hours and a palm sander won't take off. Where people run into problems is they get all excited, paint their car having never painted before, and and upset with the results. I've painted over this paint with BC/CC, and single stage enamel, and never had any problems. 
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Yep, Dart, you read me right. Well, I guess technically I did wetsand; I made a half-hearted attempt between coats 2 and 3 on the hood to try and remove those little specks/bumps I mentioned. I thought they were bubbles I missed, but then on successive coats I made sure to visually verify that all bubbles were removed, which they were. I don't know what the bumps are, but I will try to get 'em off next spring. Anyway, I only did the hood that one time. Remember, my Jeep was acquired to be a "farm Jeep," so I was not all that concerned about a perfect finish. I would rate it maybe a "2 foot paint job" because when you get that close and look from certain angles, you can see those bumps. However, now my wife and daughters think the Jeep is really cool, so it will come back to the city here and get driven frequently in nice weather. Hence, my reason to go ahead and try the polishing and stuff next spring.
Sorry for the long-winded explanation; hope it made sense.
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Remember, my Jeep was acquired to be a "farm Jeep," so I was not all that concerned about a perfect finish. I would rate it maybe a "2 foot paint job" because when you get that close and look from certain angles, you can see those bumps.
I'm doing my truck as a driver work truck to haul stuff for the house, trips to the Jyard etc no intent to come up with a show finish just something I'm happy with and from what I see already I'm well on the way to that finish, I may follow your lead and later on use my new for Christmas Porter Cable polisher after the first of the year.
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Well lets beat it to death some more.  You obviously don't have much experiance painting cars or what will happen to them in real world conditions. First it was stated the reason was a cheap way to paint a car, now it's relaxing. How many hours do you have in that cheap paint job? If you don't like it and decide to take it to a body shop for a repaint, you will have serious problems not to mention a seriously high bill when the new paint is not compatable with the Walmart paint. It may look good parked in the garage. Put that out the the Arizona sun for a few months and see what happens to it.
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it's not done yet, but I am doing bodywork and there is a lot..............C38 Coupe