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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: rhad] #2616365
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Originally Posted By rhad
take a old sparkplug,beat the tip out on the bottom,weld a short piece of rod in the hole,screw in the head,turn engine by hand till it contacts the rod,mark the dampener,turn engine the other way till it hits,mark dampener,halfway between the two marks is TDC


yeap, but that's doesn't mean on compression stroke


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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: NachoRT74] #2616469
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MoparMad, I am looking forward to your next "tip" (please hurry!). EDIT & I am being facetious, it's all good brother.

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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: bonefish] #2616471
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Originally Posted By bonefish
i just use a remote starter and my thumb shruggy

what is the issue? Trying to figure out compression stroke?
I remove the #1 plug, insert a long piece of copper wire and watch it as I turn the crank bolt. I'm not building rockets in my garage.
shruggy


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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2616558
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That takes to TDC but its a 50% is the compression stroke chance


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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2616648
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Take off oil cap and watch for the intake valve open (Slant Six).

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2616651
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I turn the crank while looking thru the window at the pushrods. When the intake valve closes on #1 I know that I'm coming up on the compression stroke.

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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2616657
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Sorry about all caps. I know some people are sensitive. But some of us can’t see well so we use all caps. My tip was just to help someone out. Also you don’t have to remove anything but the spark plug. I was also using this tip on a complete engine in a vehicle, not half apart on an engine stand. I didn’t put down anybody else’s tip. I guess I’ll try my best to be less helpful. Not in my nature but I’ll try.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: RapidRobert] #2616659
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Really?!?! I never met a Mopar owner that was judgmental and ignorant till I joined here. They are usually some of the nicest most down to earth people I’ve ever met.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Supercuda] #2616661
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That’s the plugs there

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2616684
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Welcome to Moparts, where sometimes it looks like you are going through an initiation process in a street gang.

After enough punches in the face you either make it or you give up.

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: A727Tflite] #2616812
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I’ve been jumped by 5 guys, beat over the head with metal chairs and stabbed in the back. That was easy compared to this. Lol

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2616813
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Originally Posted By Moparmad
Really?!?! I never met a Mopar owner that was judgmental and ignorant till I joined here. They are usually some of the nicest most down to earth people I’ve ever met.


Don’t take these mostly old farts personal. It’s winter and the vast major of them are grumpy old Gus’s. I’ve been here for quite awhile and have had good interactions with most but some here just like to antagonistic. Some jobs have a phenomenon that’s called “eating their young”, nursing, the fire service etc. this place is not different. And you don’t have to be physically young just new “young”


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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: cdwmotorsports] #2616887
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The collective (25K+) knowledge of the Mopar heads here is off the charts (I learn here every day). In fact where I am at knowledgewise is a direct result of being (on) here for 16 yrs.


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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: RapidRobert] #2617311
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i HAVE to rely on those here because i keep "loosing" what i used to know ! biggrin
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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: moparx] #2617440
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Hey, the title says top dead center, it doesn't say about compression stroke. But the hint was to find the top of the compression stroke.
Thanks, pardner! I never thought of that.

There are two things one might want to check:
1. Where is TDC? (is my harmonic damper and pointer correct?).
2. What stroke am I on? (top of exhaust stroke or top of compression stroke?).

The OP's trick was good for #2. The piston stop method was good for #1.
I don't worry about what if the plastic plug sucked in because it'll burn up sooner or later. Same with the little paper ball. We don't always turn the engine over with the cam, lifters, pushrods and rockers installed. I've had my finger sucked partway into the spark plug hole. The whistle is nice but I have never seen one in a store.

OP, the occasional snarky reply is what you pay for being in on this outstanding accumulation of wisdom.

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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: Moparmad] #2617508
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come on , just screw in the compression tester and be done .

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: NachoRT74] #2618374
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Originally Posted By NachoRT74
That takes to TDC but its a 50% is the compression stroke chance

I look at the dampner.


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I can screw up anything.
Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: bboogieart] #2618410
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Originally Posted By bboogieart
Originally Posted By NachoRT74
That takes to TDC but its a 50% is the compression stroke chance

I look at the dampner.


once again... that's a TDC mark but not on compression stroke necesarilly


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Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: NachoRT74] #2618468
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Half the moparts members need to go to the top dead center school. So they know what it means...

Re: TOP DEAD CENTER TRICK [Re: NachoRT74] #2618482
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Originally Posted By NachoRT74
Is amazing how ppl gets in doubts still with testimonials of some other ppl who already has made it!! Myself even with a ball made of paper, somehow threated into the hole threads. WON'T BE SUCKED IN!! AS FAR VALVES ARE WORKING!


There will be suction. Depending on what your using for the plug, and how it's being turned over will determine how much suction and if it'll get sucked in.

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