I no longer use those metal windage trays. The plastic trays with a few added slots for oil drainage work great in that they have a dual lined rubber gasket built into the tray. I would love to send a pic but Moparts is does not like Apple devices

Yeah I noticed how you're mocking it up for the duster. It's funny you mention that, nowadays to do my day job...needing full CAD access to the entire vehicle for another manufacturer, I do sometimes think...how cool it would be to have the same thing for an old B body.

Sure wish I had a spare K member, but no. However I do have the car with the 451 B engine right there to look at and imagine, which helps alot. I have 2-3 ideas for where the line could be routed...decided if I don't like the routing into the hole in the front of the block, will swap to one of the black Milodon covers instead to simplify it. One of them will definitely work...A std type pump + cover would help keep the cost down.

I might regret it later, but am planning to try an AR engineering motor plate which should free up some space for the pickup hose. If I can't live with it I have a backup plan to weld tubing into the plate and use rubber bushings to soften it up a little. That would be adding some complexity that I'd rather not if I don't have to.

Thank you. Sure hope it turns out to be a good one.

Dave it's a funny thing, awhile after the 5.7 Hemi came out I was pretty fortunate to get to tear into a few of them. One detail that stood out was the composite windage tray having o-ring material built in.

I thought, how cool. somebody should make that for B engine.
Then, awhile later, someone did!

But...I don't think any of them will work with 4.500, and I sure can't cut and weld a piece of nylon into whatever I need.

Just a few pics for visual help......"till the engine is in the bay then the final positions will be known.

Hey thanks Al. My condition is normally aspirated

Research shows some folks go upward with the lines right before the pump to hold some oil (mostly due to concerns about losing prime), and others like yours go more directly from pickup to pump. Makes it hard to figure what the determining factor is...some lose prime and some don't.

I have seen those purple rocker shaft stands on Arruzza's site as well as on ebay, they are reasonably priced. How do you like them?

I collected a potpourri mixture of MP rockers, stock wide pads, and narrow pads. But lately I've had my eye on roller rockers for this engine. The OEM ones will still work for another application I have in mind, for later.

I shed 200 lbs last year and aluminum heads and rocker stands were most likely half if not more of my Jenny Craig diet.That's a whole "nuther" thread

Bought the stands from Todd.

Another tidbit,when I went to the MOPAR Performance roller tip rockers they almost NEVER need an adjustment

I found the windage tray had to be modified like cut all the way across when using a pan with a drag link tube.

Hi Rich, I am also building my first Hemi. It is for a 68 barracuda super stock clone. I am using the Vic Jr. Edelbrock heads with StageV rockers, I purchased my aluminum rocker stands from Angelucci in Macomb township
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOPAR-426-HEMI-ROCKER-STANDS-COMPLETE-WITH-ARP-INTEGRAL-WASHERS-BOLTS-SHIMS/192741725920?hash=item2ce04d56e0:g:EtkAAOSwAwFattEz:rk:19:pf:0

Happy New year!

Hey thanks for the pics Bob, really great looking stuff.
I've had my eye on Angelucci for awhile as theirs seem closest to
the MP pieces with the pressed-in washer and all.

I have a set of the MP stands but am exploring options. May want to save them for another build later, not sure.

Rowin, good info...thx

They make a windage tray for a 4.500 stroke.. You are good to go.

One of 1,000 things I found at my past job (as you can probably tell by the 2008 packaging date) is this little gem.

Mopar (OE) PN 06035417 is a really nice 1/2-20 drain plug that has a built-in, thick rubber gasket and an thick 5/8" SAE hex. I have no idea what the orginal application was, maybe someone reading this who is at a dealership can look it up.

Contrast with the typical thin/easily rounded off aftermarket garbage which in this case has a 21mm or similar oddball hex size...I'd only use it in an emergency.

I can't remember what I was looking at, so this is gratuitous.
I see my caliper laying in the valley but have no idea what was happening. Oh well.

This head can't be used as is, so it's relegated to knock around/mockup duty.

The drain plug looks identical to what I found in my 92' 5.2 magnum. I put one in my 383.

Looking good. It takes a lot of time a patience with mocking everything up, taking it all back apart again then putting it all back together again. I don't even want to know the hours I had into mine....

their is 5 ots of oil in upper top end of a 426 hemi at 7000 rpm

I love it...That's a more alarming variation on the time honored "each valve cover holds 2 quarts of oil" statement that's been posted many times over the years

It's come up before in research.

I'm going to find out if it's true by being able to see, and record on video exactly how much oil is in the pan at 7000 rpm.

If drainback is really as horrible as the legend says, then I will repair it.

Something tells me, though, finding the correct total fill is the key.

That's why all the marks on the pan + I don't want the oil level above the windage tray except maybe when it's shut off.

NICE! build Rich...look forward to seeing it.

Zippy...the oil pickup line's inlet to the pump will be the biggest factor in your line routing. I found the best clearance is using the Milodon pump that has the pickup inlet facing the front of the car. I used a 45° fitting on the pump facing down and a 90° hose end to tuck the line close to the pan and go b/t the engine and the K frame. No need to remove it to take the engine out, doesn't wrap around anything.
Your World block has that inlet port built-in in basically the same place, just higher up. Get some different fittings and play w/ it.

Thanks Sean (hope I remembered the correct spelling!). It's been a long time coming.