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1970 340 vs. 1995 360 #259882
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Hey guys,
My little brother has a complete 1970 340 with J heads that I believe has one rebuild and should be .30 over with all stock parts except for the cam. He was originally going to build it for his 1971 Demon. A guy at his work just let him know that he has a 360 out of a 1995 Dodge truck that comes with the trans and all of the accessories and the harness for $500. It supposedly has 92,000 miles and they are mostly highway miles. My question to you guys is , is it worth it? I believe that my little brother wants to keep a somewhat stock look running a carb and everything but we were wondering about all of the internals of the newer motor. Would it bolt up to the original 727 he is going to use? Is it all roller lifters and cam? Is it a stronger block? Are the heads any good? Im guessing an intake and 4 Bbl carb could be put on it?

I am assuming if he goes this route he would just sell off all of the stuff he doesnt use, paint the engine the correct orange and make it look as close to stock as possible.

What do you guys think?
Thanks,
Brian

Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #259883
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The '95 5.9 (360) is a roller motor and will bolt up to a 727.


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Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: Pentastar440] #259884
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340 over a 360 no matter what the condition anytime...

Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #259885
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use the 360, then sell me the 340 really cheap


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Having both my vote is the 340 period. The roller cam 360 is a truck motor Can they run sure but the 340 is a easier build with more power

Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #259887
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I vote for the 360. Cheaper to build, roller cam , so no oil additive issues, and if you blow it up, another one is just a wrecking yard away

Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: cudasam] #259888
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I vote for the 360. Cheaper to build, roller cam , so no oil additive issues, and if you blow it up, another one is just a wrecking yard away




yes i agree, then sell me the 340 really really cheap


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Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #259889
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I say keep the 340, buy the 360 and build a stroker out ov it

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340 over a 360 no matter what the condition anytime...




360 over a 340 no matter what....

20 more cubes
cheaper replacement pistons/rings
'95 in particular
magnum engine will have magnum heads (closed chamber
mag engine will be roller cam

how much do you want to "build" it? clean it up/rering, maybe a cam swap & tchain and go? or bore & new pistons?

how wild do you want it to be?

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Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #259891
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360 more low end torque, big ger crank,but may have less compression thana 340

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I say keep the 340, buy the 360 and build a stroker out ov it


that'd be what I'd do


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Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #259893
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Stock the 360 makes more power than a stock 340. Equally built the 360 makes more power than a 340.

The magnum heads on the 360 are a better head stock than the 340 heads stock and will be more tolerant of todays gas.

The the 360 has a roller cam but stamped rockers.

You will need a car oil pan for the 360. You will need either an external balanced torque converter or flex plate.

Since niether motor is stock to the car use the 360 and sell the 340 to finance the parts you need for the 360. The 340 is worth more to the restoration crowd or those that see the 340 through rose colored glasses and think its better.


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Re: 1970 340 vs. 1995 360 [Re: dgc333] #259894
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Sorry guys,
I should have stated that my brother just wants a strong street cruiser in the 400 HP range. The car might see the track once a year. How does the price sound for the 360?

Thanks,
Brian

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I would buy the 360 and use it. If he is going to a carb, he can pick the appropriate intake. Are there roller replacement cams available where you can re-use the lifters like a Chevy? That would be great. Over-all, I think the 360 is a better engine due to the stroke advantage.
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Stock the 360 makes more power than a stock 340.




Really i don't recall the 360 ever being rated at 275 h.p. and anyone that knows and i have owned more then a few that rating is low its more like 300 or more..i'll put a stock 340 up against a stock 360 any day of the week,you might have more torque down low but by mid track i'll be blowing right by ya'!!!

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What do you guys think would be a good price for the 360 without transmission or harness? He was asking $500 for everything.

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Stock the 360 makes more power than a stock 340. Equally built the 360 makes more power than a 340.

The magnum heads on the 360 are a better head stock than the 340 heads stock and will be more tolerant of todays gas.

The the 360 has a roller cam but stamped rockers.

You will need a car oil pan for the 360. You will need either an external balanced torque converter or flex plate.

Since niether motor is stock to the car use the 360 and sell the 340 to finance the parts you need for the 360. The 340 is worth more to the restoration crowd or those that see the 340 through rose colored glasses and think its better.




I have never seen a 360 magnum make more power than a 340 built up the same way. The 340 has a bigger bore diameter than a 360 and you can run any stroker crank in either engine. For example: 4 inch crank in 30 over 360= 408. Same crank in 30 over 340= 416. Hmmmmmmm? Now as far as roller lifters go, yes the mgnum motors have them stock, but you can put roller lifters in a 340, so if lifters are that important to your build, then maybe the 360 should be your choice. There are probaby pros and cons for either build, but 340s do make more power, straight up. Also magnum heads use 10 bolt valve covers that would look very wrong in that car. My 2 cents.....

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I have a 360 magnum in my car,and I used the 340 five-bolt valve covers and the water pump and housing and v-belts. Looks stock

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The 340 is an awesome motor. They don't call it the "giant-killer" for nothing. It's just rarer and more expensive than a 360. A bare 340 block is worth a way more than a good low-mile 360 complete. For a street car, I use the 360.

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