Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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If you are on an extreme budget and dont plan on new pistons- could you install a camshaft that maximizes cyl pressure?
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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11/30/18 04:03 PM
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If your going to reuse it in a truck or motor home I would check the bores first for taper and wear first and go from there ![work work](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/work.gif) I would try to duplicate the original parts for the heavy duty use They where designed to be ran at or near WOT for long times and live carrying a lot of weight I don't remember what RPM they where governed at but it was not above 4500 RPM if I'm thinking correctly
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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12/01/18 03:04 AM
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If you are on an extreme budget and dont plan on new pistons- could you install a camshaft that maximizes cyl pressure? 2b .... don’t have a bottomless budget like some toe and sno hoes do !! ... (aka ![apimp apimp](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/apimp.gif) .... who have a towing and snow clearing businesses) !! .... ![wave wave](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/wave.gif) PISTONS are the main concern .... I have THREE SETS to consider - std bore 11 to 1 max wedge pop ups, and two sets of 413 30s and 60s ... gotta do some specing of the block deck and cyl head CCs ..... cal head is supposedly way over 100 cc. A cam is also super important !!
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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If your going to reuse it in a truck or motor home I would check the bores first for taper and wear first and go from there ![work work](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/work.gif) I would try to duplicate the original parts for the heavy duty use They where designed to be ran at or near WOT for long times and live carrying a lot of weight I don't remember what RPM they where governed at but it was not above 4500 RPM if I'm thinking correctly CABster .... I’ve talked to several people who have used these blocks for HP use and taper and wear were never an issue they saw. NEVER MUCH sludge build up because the motor is so heavily loaded PLUS low miles. I have one part apart up in Michigan that has ZERO sludge !
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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If your gunna do it,,,do it right and make the power it needs to travel and be able to pass!! Unless you drive like a gEEzEr CORRECT THAT ..... Isn’t that DRIVE LIKE a Long Islander ??!! 5 to 10 mph In that traffic MOST OF the 24 hours of the day !!! DONT you have a snow drift to plow OR GET your rig to get stuck in ??!!...
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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12/01/18 03:35 AM
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hi
maby an r v cam and mill the heads some .
other option to rais compression is prob costom pistons ? cr2 .... absolutely an Rv cam ... any suggestions ? The heads you have to stick with. They’are ABSOLUTE JUNK for HP ... but for a GRUNT MOTOR .. they are perfect IMO. Custom pistons ? ... if need be -!YEA !
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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12/01/18 03:08 PM
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If your gunna do it,,,do it right and make the power it needs to travel and be able to pass!! Unless you drive like a gEEzEr CORRECT THAT ..... Isn’t that DRIVE LIKE a Long Islander ??!! 5 to 10 mph In that traffic MOST OF the 24 hours of the day !!! DONT you have a snow drift to plow OR GET your rig to get stuck in ??!!... After you get out of the greater NYC area the speed picks up to 25 MPH. So if your gunna build something,do right the 1st time!Splurge for some aluminum heads and aluminum dual plane intake.Make it a torqueee package to pulling up hills with a car trailer is effortless! OPEN that wallet and let the moths FLY!! ![pity pity](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/pity.gif)
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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12/02/18 10:52 PM
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You could go old-school and find some 915 heads
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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You could go old-school and find some 915 heads PB .... do you know how long a set of 915s would last on a motorhome modern during a long pull up a Tennessee mountain ?
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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If it's only going to be a truck engine, no sense in using 915 heads. They are waaay expensive these days. A set of 516's would work great in a truck. I am using a set with larger exhaust valves on the 440 in my pickup. It rarely if ever see's north of 5 grand and makes all kinds of torque with the factory .430 lift cam. Guys .., yurr missing the point and purpose of those goofy heads ! Anyone know how truly SPECIAL those heads are ?
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Re: 413 motorhome or truck REBUILD and used as such....
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12/03/18 01:56 AM
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If it's only going to be a truck engine, no sense in using 915 heads. They are waaay expensive these days. A set of 516's would work great in a truck. I am using a set with larger exhaust valves on the 440 in my pickup. It rarely if ever see's north of 5 grand and makes all kinds of torque with the factory .430 lift cam. Guys .., yurr missing the point and purpose of those goofy heads ! Anyone know how truly SPECIAL those heads are ? Lots of cooling around the exhaust. Kevin
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