What are your feelings on racing a restored car?
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I just took off the Polyglas tires and put on some other wheels and tires because I'm thinking of draging the T/A to see what it will do. In fact, I want to go up against FY1TA's restored black AAR. Does anyone think yay or nay to racing real Trans Am cars that are very nicely restored? That's only if he has it in him to do it of course.
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I just took off the Polyglas tires and put on some other wheels and tires because I'm thinking of draging the T/A to see what it will do. In fact, I want to go up against FY1TA's restored black AAR. Does anyone think yay or nay to racing real Trans Am cars that are very nicely restored? That's only if he has it in him to do it of course.
if its a numbers matching block, id say pass but i know the previous owner of my A12 bee raced it and it has the original engine,trans.rear in it.
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I think it would be alot safer than your experiences driving it on the street!!
Ouch!!! That hurt. True,, but it still hurt,,, and of course funny!
I ran my numbers motor/tranny V code 4 speed Bird about 15 times for Pure Stock before the rear u joint went out a mile from the track driving it to the races on Saturday AM. This was from test/tune Wednesday night before.
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Some cool pics of some nice cars! I'm surprised. I really thought this would be more taboo. It's good to see! Still no word from FY1TA though.
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Those A12 guys are all B@D@$$'$ and they throw a mean party and man do they have a good time RACING If these things were meant to be show cars Ma Mopar would have put fins and way more chrome on them, not light weight FIBERGLASS HOODS or aluminum front ends, giant wings, Dana's........
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In fact, I want to go up against FY1TA's restored black AAR. Does anyone think yay or nay to racing real Trans Am cars that are very nicely restored? That's only if he has it in him to do it of course.
That's almost laughable . The AAR has had quite a few floggings on the 1320 . Get you some M/T drag radials and we will see who can really drive a stick car at the dragstrip !
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In fact, I want to go up against FY1TA's restored black AAR. Does anyone think yay or nay to racing real Trans Am cars that are very nicely restored? That's only if he has it in him to do it of course.
That's almost laughable . The AAR has had quite a few floggings on the 1320 . Get you some M/T drag radials and we will see who can really drive a stick car at the dragstrip !
Gary, I call the shotgun seat
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Does anyone think yay or nay to racing real Trans Am cars that are very nicely restored?
A car that just sits and gets looked at is worthless imo. Driving them is most of the thrill anyway and if restored properly having some fun at the track should not hurt a thing. Most of the reason I like Mopars is because they are engineered to be driven hard.
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Run 'em. At least once. That's what they were made for. Not that I have any problem with the guys who don't. Me, I gotta know what a car will do. I wish we had Pure Stock or Stock-Appearing events near me.
Go have fun ! Heck most guys hit them hard once in a while on the street. Might as well do it in a safe enviroment.
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Nothing wrong with going down the ol' 1320 a few times. As far as I am concerned, it's almost a "must do" after any restoration. How else are you going to know that everything is dialed in mechanically ? A few hard passes, either on the track or off, is the only way to know that the car is running correctly , and running correctly is part of a restoration. Afterall, if all the mechanicalls are restord, shouldn't they function good as well as look good. It's pretty sad to see "restored" musclecars go down the track turning 17 second quarters because nobody had the common sense to stand on it a few times after resto and dial in the carb, timing etc. for maximum seat of the pants results. To me, that's part of the restoration , to make sure everything is right . Greg Wards Classic Car Radio Repair Specializing in restoration and sales of Mopar A B E body radios We can restore YOUR radio usually in less than 7 days Visit our NEW website.. http://www.wardsclassiccarradiorepair.comgregward@mchsi.comphone 256-852-0955
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If the cars are numbers matching, I would resist the urge to race. Everything CAN be fixed, yes, but a rod out the side of the numbers block
Another consideration might be your insurance. I don't know what kind of coverage you have but I think my policy said coverage is void if racing, organized or otherwise. [/quo
this is the smartest answer i have seen yet.if its non-matching #'s i say go for it.
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It's pretty sad to see "restored" musclecars go down the track turning 17 second quarters because nobody had the common sense to stand on it a few times after resto and dial in the carb, timing etc.
could not agree more.
Also agree that is what is was made to do - run it hard!!!
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If the cars are numbers matching, I would resist the urge to race. Everything CAN be fixed, yes, but a rod out the side of the numbers block
Another consideration might be your insurance. I don't know what kind of coverage you have but I think my policy said coverage is void if racing, organized or otherwise.
this is the smartest answer i have seen yet.if its non-matching #'s i say go for it.
what samatter , you SCARED boy ???
Of course the policy doesn't cover drag racing , even the policy on your DAILY DRIVER does not cover you if you are drag racing , REAL MEN aren't AFRAID .
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I asked myself the same question a few years ago,and ended up selling my numbers matching '70 340 duster just as i was begining to drag race it..i bought a 318 '70 duster and made a street/strip 416/366 car out of it,if something breaks big deal..with the numbers car i don't think i would of felt the same way...
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If the cars are numbers matching, I would resist the urge to race. Everything CAN be fixed, yes, but a rod out the side of the numbers block
Another consideration might be your insurance. I don't know what kind of coverage you have but I think my policy said coverage is void if racing, organized or otherwise.
this is the smartest answer i have seen yet.if its non-matching #'s i say go for it.
what samatter , you SCARED boy ???
Of course the policy doesn't cover drag racing , even the policy on your DAILY DRIVER does not cover you if you are drag racing , REAL MEN aren't AFRAID .
So........ if you owned a car that was worth more than TWICE you annual income, and you knew your insurance company wouldn't pay a cent on the car if you smacked the wall and rolled it at the drag strip, you would go ahead and do it? If the honest answer is yes......... your nads are much bigger than mine. I'll try to say this as nicely as I can without sounding like a jerk, the E-Body owners have more to loose in a worst case senerio with their cars than the Duster or Dart folks. I AM NOT saying that with my nose in the air, it's just the way the marketplace has gone. To me, if I had a car that I really wanted to race but it was too valuable to justify racing it, I would put a different (non-numbers) motor in it and go for it. Or better yet, buy a different car to race.
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If the cars are numbers matching, I would resist the urge to race. Everything CAN be fixed, yes, but a rod out the side of the numbers block
Another consideration might be your insurance. I don't know what kind of coverage you have but I think my policy said coverage is void if racing, organized or otherwise.
this is the smartest answer i have seen yet.if its non-matching #'s i say go for it.
what samatter , you SCARED boy ???
Of course the policy doesn't cover drag racing , even the policy on your DAILY DRIVER does not cover you if you are drag racing , REAL MEN aren't AFRAID .
So........ if you owned a car that was worth more than TWICE you annual income, and you knew your insurance company wouldn't pay a cent on the car if you smacked the wall and rolled it at the drag strip, you would go ahead and do it? If the honest answer is yes......... your nads are much bigger than mine. I'll try to say this as nicely as I can without sounding like a jerk, the E-Body owners have more to loose in a worst case senerio with their cars than the Duster or Dart folks. I AM NOT saying that with my nose in the air, it's just the way the marketplace has gone. To me, if I had a car that I really wanted to race but it was too valuable to justify racing it, I would put a different (non-numbers) motor in it and go for it. Or better yet, buy a different car to race.
That wasn't directed at you , but my other quote may have been ...
You bought the car for the WRONG reason .
And to answer your question , no I wouldn't be racing a car that was worth twice my annual salary. Why because I wouldn't buy one that was that valuable to begin with because I would not be able to ENJOY owning a car like that .
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I guess there is a good argument against doing it, but the point is don't think that every car you see out there racing are doing so with clones. You may be very surprised.
MB
Mike,I know you have several really nice numbers matching cars.Why don't you race yours??
Not knowing who you are, and never meeting you in my life, it's kind of peculiar why you would care
I never voiced my own opinion on it and frankly to each his own. All I was stating was that there are people who do it. I have no desire to at this time. Frankly I get my fix from my day job. Almost like if you worked in a candy store, you probably wouldn't touch a chocolate bar in your entire life. I walk past my cars and really have no desire to do anything with them. Don't even drive them anymore. That may change in the future, but for right now it is what it is...
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That wasn't directed at you , but my other quote may have been ...
You bought the car for the WRONG reason .
And to answer your question , no I wouldn't be racing a car that was worth twice my annual salary. Why because I wouldn't buy one that was that valuable to begin with because I would not be able to ENJOY owning a car like that .
You have NO idea why I bought my cars and for you to make a statement like that... We all bought our cars for different reasons. Some to race, some to just look at, and maybe some for sentimental reasons (had one in high school.. kind of thing). To each his own. I prefer to have stock appearing cars that I can take out for a drive when the weather is nice. And yes I do hammer the throttle every now and then on an open road.
As for your other comment...... I could never afford and have no desire to PURCHASE a car that costs twice my annual income. Some of us who have owned the cars for several years have seen the value of our cars shoot up while our incomes stayed level or even went down the last few years.
Bottom line is......... if a person has a numbers matching hemi cuda vert and wants to install a rollbar and go drag racing, it's his car!! If this same person wants to put his car inside a bubble and build block walls around it, it's his car!! That is the issue here. The original posted simply asked others opinions about racing his car. We are simply pointing out the potential financial risks he takes if he does. If he wants to go racing despite that...... it's his car. There is no need to make fun of, belittle or look down upon a fellow mopar person just on the basis of how he treats his car. Whenever I see a nice Cuda all cut up with tubs and rollcage at the dragstrip, I think to myself, what a shame. But if the owner of that car comes over to my house and sees my cars all under covers in a climate controlled garage, you know what he's thinking? What a shame.........
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For me it was very important that my car run like it should. Shortly after buying it, I heard about the Pure Stock Musclecar Drag Race series and was so intrigued, I built my car with this type of racing in mind. I've spared no expense in the resto and that's still the number's engine sitting in the engine bay, but I fully intend to race the car......call me crazy if you like. Dave
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For me it was very important that my car run like it should. Shortly after buying it, I heard about the Pure Stock Musclecar Drag Race series and was so intrigued, I built my car with this type of racing in mind.
I've spared no expense in the resto and that's still the number's engine sitting in the engine bay, but I fully intend to race the car......call me crazy if you like. Dave
Dave, Nothing wrong with that. You have the car and found something you like to do with it and willing to accept/repair any breakdowns etc. That series sounds like just the ticket for guys who like to race but want to keep their cars stock looking.
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Why not....that's a real Hemi car in that picture....and a real sixpack car in the my sig....
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For me it was very important that my car run like it should. Shortly after buying it, I heard about the Pure Stock Musclecar Drag Race series and was so intrigued, I built my car with this type of racing in mind.
I've spared no expense in the resto and that's still the number's engine sitting in the engine bay, but I fully intend to race the car......call me crazy if you like.
Dave
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it's just a LOWLY B BODY , it don't matter if you wreck it ...
I'll second that,a-bodies rule!!!....
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And to answer your question , no I wouldn't be racing a car that was worth twice my annual salary. Why because I wouldn't buy one that was that valuable to begin with because I would not be able to ENJOY owning a car like that
Not having fun with the car would be like having a very very beautiful wife and never being able to consummate the marriage.
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Well it looks like most everyone is up for some fun at the track. I'm confused about the polyglas tires though. How will a G60 polyglas hold better than a N50 pro trac? Are the protracs that bad of a tire?
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Fig , April 4 , Etown SUPERCARS ice breaker ... bring it out and run with the big dogs ,
Put the polyglas back on and bring it out. $30 and you will have fun no matter what the car runs.
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Get you some M/T drag radials...
Do you find the M/T drag radials better then the BFGoodrich drag radials? (If you have used both?)
I say go for it! If it breaks, you can fix it.
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Nice AAR, are those track tires or streets? Travis..
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This is how I treat my M code RR. (I know it doesn't look like an M code RR but it is) It is not restored but I will drive it the same even after I restore it. I believe you should drive them like they were meant to be driven. I have 2 other 69 RR's and they both get raced often and hard. This RR runs 12.50's with sticky street tires and exhaust. Have Fun with your car and enjoy it. David
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Do you find the M/T drag radials better then the BFGoodrich drag radials? (If you have used both?)
Handsdown the m/t's are a better tire for 1/4 use,i first tried the bfg's they were totally useless,car spun halfway down the track..switched to m/t's launches with tires up 60's in the 1.60-1.42 area depending on which motor is in it..
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Well, I think there are 3 important facts to this thread. 1. It is OK to hammer on a restored car. 2 You called out FY1TA for a grudge race 3 Pretty sure Gary has Accepted the challenge The only unknowns now are time, place and bet
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Re: What are your feelings on racing a restored car?
[Re: fig426]
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03/20/09 02:20 PM
03/20/09 02:20 PM
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Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana
Dave Watt
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Have fun with the car. If it's the original engine, nothing says you have to shift it at redline every time. Here's mine at the Pure Stock Drags.
Last edited by Dave Watt; 03/20/09 02:22 PM.
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