Re: 440 stroker?
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your not part of the chosen few Bull$hit. It's NOT him being a newbie or whatever. He's asking the same question multiple different ways on multiple threads at a time, yet not HEARING or UNDERSTANDING what people who are trying to tell him that's good advice. And he's coming across like a snarky effin' kid who has no concept that his approach to dealing with people who really DO know more about this subject matter than he does is shrinking the list of people who would otherwise be willing to help him. THAT'S why I won't respond to his questions anymore.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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11/23/18 05:42 PM
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But im clearly not building this myself. Hollis Page will be. Frankly....... you should be having these conversations with him.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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Another thing: alot of people were saying I would need a 2"+ compression height piston, but these are 1.867. How much does compression height matter after all of the other things have been worked out? Read... the... books... If you don't understand the implications of compression heights, you shouldn't be building anything. I'm done with this. Ok then bye. But im clearly not building this myself. Hollis Page will be. I apologize for asking questions on a website meant for questions... It's hard to communicate via the interweb, especially when the topic is as detailed as what you want. On top of that, you are like a fart in a skillet. You are all over everywhere. I'm old enough to tell you've I've seen this before. You want to know it all, and know it now. It doesn't work that way. When you struggle with what compression distance is (nothing more that stroke length/rod length/ deck height) and mix things together, no one has any idea if you are actually teaching with what you are being told, or you are getting more confused. You need to slow down and realize you won't learn this [censored] in a year. Or a decade. It's a lifetime of learning and it only stops when you quit or die. You need to take this like eating an elephant...you do it one bite at a time. What you are doing is trying to take a sip from a fire hose. Read everything you can. Then reread it. It takes a lifetime. I understand i wont know everything in one post. Im simply asking questions. And yes im asking alot of different things. I would rather have an idea of what I want to do with each part then build an engine and take another month or two of questions to know what i should get for my rear end. Or suspension. Or brakes. Id rather be able to learn as much as possible at the same time than learn things on at a time. I was simply asking how piston compression height plays a role in this. Everyone has given me answers on everything about the stroker kit, but the compression height is much different than what has been suggested. Im simply trying to know if i would need to get the same kit with pistons that have a higher compression height or not.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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Questions were answered repeatedly very thuroly, its to bad the answers could not be comprehended. This is what hotroding has come to, just assembling parts, you dont have to know what your doing just open a catalog or two and buy parts. I think guys with small block chevys have been doing it for years. Youre right people will simply throw parts together that say “buy this and go fast”. Thats why im here asking questions.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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your not part of the chosen few Bull$hit. It's NOT him being a newbie or whatever. He's asking the same question multiple different ways on multiple threads at a time, yet not HEARING or UNDERSTANDING what people who are trying to tell him that's good advice. And he's coming across like a snarky effin' kid who has no concept that his approach to dealing with people who really DO know more about this subject matter than he does is shrinking the list of people who would otherwise be willing to help him. THAT'S why I won't respond to his questions anymore. Please tell me what question i have asked repeatedly and not listened to. I wasnt coming off as snarky at all until people were rude for no reason at all.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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But im clearly not building this myself. Hollis Page will be. Frankly....... you should be having these conversations with him. Well yes of course, but id rather not go to him and ask him to teach me everything, or just simply tell him i want a fast daily driver engine. Id rather go in with this knowledge and have a conversation about what i should get, vs having him tell me what i should do.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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11/23/18 06:04 PM
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Before you argue with everyone here go read the frickin books and get some basic knowledge!
Your acutely proving the point of ignorance on your part. You have been given information multiple times but you're not capable of recognizing the answers.
Get the books.
Have a great day Iowan
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Re: 440 stroker?
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Before you argue with everyone here go read the frickin books and get soom basic knowledge!
Your acutely proving the point of ignorance on your part. You have been given information multiple times but you're not capable of recognizing the answers.
Get the books. What answers have i not recognized...
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Re: 440 stroker?
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11/23/18 06:15 PM
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The one you just responded too.
Have a great day Iowan
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Re: 440 stroker?
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I stopped answering his camshaft questions (I happen to run the exact cam he was considering at the time) after he insulted everybody that didn't provide the exact answer he was looking for. This was a month ago.
"See guys, was that so hard?" Was his response to us.
I'm finished with him. I said that when someone did actually answer my questions. Most other people either told me to stop asking questions, or told me exactly what they run in a pure race engine.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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11/23/18 07:19 PM
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If you dont like the responses , and you have been give great feedback and now your calling us rude why are you here?
Have a great day Iowan
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Re: 440 stroker?
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If you dont like the responses , and you have been give great feedback and now your calling us rude why are you here? I have gotten good responses. But if you look a majority of it is rudeness that started simply because i asked questions. If questions cant be asked here why is anyone here?
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Re: 440 stroker?
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11/23/18 09:57 PM
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Id rather go in with this knowledge and have a conversation about what i should get, vs having him tell me what i should do.
That statement makes absolutely no sense. If Hollis tells you this is what you should get. Then thats what you should do. If Hollis is doing your engine. And any question Hollis answers is teaching you. Heres my advice. Step 1. Either call or go talk to Hollis. Step 2. Tell him you want to build a 440 stroker pump gas engine. Step 3. Tell him the components you are thinking about using. Step 4. Shut up and listen. Then you can spin any questions you may have at him. Sorry if you get offended on here. But I read all the post. And all the post on your other thread. It was painfully bad my man.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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But im clearly not building this myself. Hollis Page will be. Frankly....... you should be having these conversations with him. Well yes of course, but id rather not go to him and ask him to teach me everything, or just simply tell him i want a fast daily driver engine. Id rather go in with this knowledge and have a conversation about what i should get, vs having him tell me what i should do. which is why people are telling you to go read the books.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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Id rather go in with this knowledge and have a conversation about what i should get, vs having him tell me what i should do.
That statement makes absolutely no sense. If Hollis tells you this is what you should get. Then thats what you should do. If Hollis is doing your engine. And any question Hollis answers is teaching you. Heres my advice. Step 1. Either call or go talk to Hollis. Step 2. Tell him you want to build a 440 stroker pump gas engine. Step 3. Tell him the components you are thinking about using. Step 4. Shut up and listen. Then you can spin any questions you may have at him. Sorry if you get offended on here. But I read all the post. And all the post on your other thread. It was painfully bad my man. That quote wasnt hard at all to understand. I am saying I want to follow those steps. But I'd rather go in understanding my options, than saying "hey build me a daily driver 440" and be done. Id rather know what is in my engine. Please tell me what was bad about my posts.
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Re: 440 stroker?
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But im clearly not building this myself. Hollis Page will be. Frankly....... you should be having these conversations with him. Well yes of course, but id rather not go to him and ask him to teach me everything, or just simply tell him i want a fast daily driver engine. Id rather go in with this knowledge and have a conversation about what i should get, vs having him tell me what i should do. which is why people are telling you to go read the books. Well of course. But at the same time those people arent saying that as pieces of advice. Theyre saying shut up and stop asking questions here and read. Why is it so bad to ask questions on a forum.....
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Re: 440 stroker?
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500" stroker kit, -24 dished pistons (should be slightly above 10:1 CR), around .040 quench Bare Trickflow 240, with their valves, springs will be whatever is recommended for the cam Cam around 240@.050, around .550 lift Most likely Harland Sharp rocker arms, 1.5 ratio Holley SD intake Either 870 CFM Street Avenger, or similar CFM double pumper 440 Source stroker windage tray, oil pan, and oil pickup 1 3/4" Hedman Headers (I would go 1 7/8" but that would cause clearance issues with the pitman arm) Edelbrock RPM fuel pump? (max pressure is 6 lbs, though)
You stick to what you posted earlier. You will most likely exceed your expectation. That would make good street combo.
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