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V10 to V8 swap #2575222
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Got a very nice 95 Ram 3500 4X4 with a V10. The oil pump housing went bad. No replacements available.

Also have a rusty 94 Ram 2500 4X4 HD with a good 360 V8 gas driveline. How difficult is it to swap all the V8 stuff into the V10 truck?

Please, no diesel advise. Way to pricey for me. I would sell the nice V10 as is before doing that.

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Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2575322
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if both transmissions are RH it is doable----all the engine loom+computer and you are down the road....your cab loom to engine loom should both be in 3 separate plugins near the firewall.....

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: savoy64] #2575448
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I figure I would swap over the V8 tranny as well. As you said, swap the engine, tranny, computer and wiring. Anyone know of something I may be overlooking?

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2575455
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Should be straightforward, only thing I can think of is the exhaust flanges maybe not lining up to use the existing exhaust that’s on the truck already. When I did my v6 to v8 swap the exhaust was in the right spot from where the v6 manifolds hit to the v8 manifolds hit, so I just bolted them right up. I don’t remember how a v10 manifold looks but that might be the only snag you encounter, the rest will be plug and play. Remove the v10 and it’s trans and put the v8 and trans in its place. Should be good to go. Don’t forget to change your computer on the firewall.

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2575521
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The trans will have to be changed. V10 units use the diesel bellhousing pattern.


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Its a shame the V10 is no longer supported.

This sounds like a viable project.

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Too bad... local pick n pull had one here with 140k miles on it. A friend scored me the hard to find t-stat housing which is in excellent shape. They closed the yard last weekend

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2575852
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As long as you have everything from the donor truck as mentioned, all of the connectors, harnesses, computer etc. It should be a doable swap but not easy work. Looking at my V10 it looks like the cab would have to come off of the frame in order to get the engine out but maybe not, without the core support it may go far enough forward to clear windshield & firewall.


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It would be a lot of work. Not sure If I want to do it. May just sell the dually as is.

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2576139
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Could a used oil pump housing be utilized?

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2576148
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I wish you were closer I'd buy that truck and swap a Cummins into it. That's what a lot of people do. The Cummins outlasts the body and no one can afford the gas for a V10 truck, so they are in good shape and have all the HD stuff on them.
I think you'd be better off selling it to a Cummins guy.


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Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2576229
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I know you don't want to do a Cummins swap and I don't honestly know what would be involved in doing it chassis wise, but I've seen complete rust bucket 12 valve trucks sell for $2500 +/- which would be the way to go to get an engine. That way you get all the extra doodads that would nickel and dime you to death doing a piecemeal conversion.

Something else to consider if your truck is in good shape is a Cummins engine will actually make your truck worth something. You can barely give away a V10 Ram but buyers will fight over a diesel.

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Originally Posted By QuickDodge
Could a used oil pump housing be utilized?


Somebody somewhere has the fix for this. Considering it was based off the magnum v-8 I find it hard to believe the oil pump housing is unique to that engine.

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: redraptor] #2576814
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We are attempting to repair the housing. Good used ones are tough to find. They no longer make new ones. It is has a crank driven gear that spins in the housing. As the housing wears you lose pressure.

We have a machinist friend machining the cover gear pocket to a larger diameter. We are then making a sleeve to put into this pocket. This should get the cover/gear tolerance back in spec. We shall see.

The V10 oil pump is not like any other Mopar I have ever seen. It is similar to an Olds or Buick. I can't remember which one it is.

I will let everyone know how it comes out.

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2576866
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I hope it works for you.


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Like a Buick it's part of the timing cover iirc.


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No luck on the timing cover repair.

Thanks for the replies.

Re: V10 to V8 swap [Re: nd65] #2577387
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if the pump is really like a buick pump there MIGHT be a repair kit ,buick had one that used thicker gears and a spacer and different cover,it came with thin brass shims to use when gettin the gears setup correctly
might be worth lookin into if there are no aftermarket covers available,have you checked the guy in arizona that sells discontinued nos parts?
cant think of his exact name,but try google arizona parts,it should pop up


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