Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: tdmoparguy]
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10/17/18 10:27 PM
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Getting to basics, brakes stop your wheels, tires stop your car.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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10/22/18 03:38 PM
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Goody...pad knock-back is from loose wheel bearings...sometimes you guys should listen to those of us like me who ran those same brakes on the road course at 130+ mph with lots of track mileage/time. The orig way to set up wheel bearings in not for going 130 mph. OK??? More than 1 car with the same set up btw.
The proper modern adjustment procedure is
While spinning rotor CW tighten wheel bearing nut to 20 fl lbs. Loosen nut While spinning rotor CW tighten wheel bearing nut to 90 to 120 INCH pounds with a BEAM torque wrench.
I am not here to argue. I know what works so why don't you humor me and try it? If you have pad knock-back after that you have something else wrong and/or the torque setting needs to be a bit more. I never ran small outer wheel bearings.
As far the Op and his size matters...minimal difference in the size...ducted air on the brakes matters, for the street with no track time the 11.75 is more than adequate. Choose the correct brake material.
Last edited by Dilbert; 10/22/18 03:40 PM.
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: gzig5]
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11/01/18 10:27 PM
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goldduster318
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Not worth it in my opinion. If your setup could actually use the slight additional fade resistance, then you would benefit from a true big brake kit like the 13+" ones available, and that would be worth it. I'm saving for a Baer or Brembo type setup. Buy once and cry once. I've no direct experience with Wilwood but have heard a lot of non-complementary things about the performance of their front brake kits. The Doctor Diff 13" Mustang Cobra brake kit is great bang for the buck. Those+Hydroboost and you have a ton of brake output and great modulation
'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: goldduster318]
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11/02/18 08:33 PM
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The Doctor Diff 13" Mustang Cobra brake kit is great bang for the buck. Those+Hydroboost and you have a ton of brake output and great modulation
Glad to hear that, that setup is awesome on my 01 Bullitt, and I've been tempted, love the look of my cop wheels though.
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: tdmoparguy]
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11/02/18 09:36 PM
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Bob J
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Call Magnum Force and see what they say they are in the know.
07 Porsche C2 997.1 6spd DD and SCCA Solo II SS 68 Plymouth GTX Convert. 493cu Hotkiss Wilwood Classic air, Building for Solo II Cam 65 Chrysler 300 Convert. project 57 Desoto 2dr. Firesweep 392 Hemi,Wilwood Project with son 2003 Dodge Dakota R/T "DEAD"
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: Kern Dog]
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11/03/18 02:12 PM
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You mean that guy that looks like a Roadie for KISS or the Scorpions ?? LOL I never meet the guy. I just talked with them years ago when I sent them My spindles for my 57 DeSoto 2dr. Firesweep. They built brackets for the spindles and put a kit together for me. They tried to sell them after that but I don't think that they sold well. At the time if it cost more than 2 nickles the the forwardlook guys didn't want it.
07 Porsche C2 997.1 6spd DD and SCCA Solo II SS 68 Plymouth GTX Convert. 493cu Hotkiss Wilwood Classic air, Building for Solo II Cam 65 Chrysler 300 Convert. project 57 Desoto 2dr. Firesweep 392 Hemi,Wilwood Project with son 2003 Dodge Dakota R/T "DEAD"
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: 340mouse]
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11/03/18 08:41 PM
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goldduster318
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What options are there if you want to keep the 14" rims.
Stock 73+ Brakes + Hydroboost. I doubt you'll be able to increase the output much over that. Tires will become a giant issue for braking since 14" performance tires don't exist as far as I know. BFG Radial T/A's are just garbage. Not sure why anyone needs a mud/snow radial on a cars that rarely get driven in the rain
'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: tdmoparguy]
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11/03/18 09:14 PM
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yeah, no performance tires in 14" diameters https://www.tirerack.com/tires/sizes/results.jsp?diameter=14Lots of options from extreme high performance summer tires to dedicated race/autocross tires. All in 14" diameters
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: 11.75" vs 12.19" Disc Kit
[Re: Supercuda]
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11/03/18 10:22 PM
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goldduster318
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Nobody is putting a sub 24" tall tire on a mopar muscle car. I didn't think we were talking about Neons but okay... Any size larger than that you can get a Radial T/A or a Cooper Cobra, neither of which are anything but 1980s tire designs that are still manufactured. Optimum wheel size is either 17" or 18" for most of our cars for cornering performance, and you can get some really amazing tires, and fit great brakes under it.
'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
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