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VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor #2540035
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Can it be done? I have to run a distributor to be legal. What are my options with a 6.4 block. I believe all of those are VVT blocks.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540088
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Yes all the 6.4s are VVT, I have seen kits to adapt them for to use the early non VVT cams and timing sets, you should be able to get that and run the distributor. I dont think anyone has anything to run a distributor on a VVT engine that still uses VVT.


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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: HotRodDave] #2540135
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Initially I was told the conversion won't work on a VVT block...

The guy I used to talk with has left the company, and I am not sure who to talk with. The person answering the phones there said she needed a translator to understand what I was asking.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540141
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upon re examining my blocks I dont think it will work, the tensioners bolt to the block different and the chain ends up further out so you can not use the early shallow cover. I have no idea how you would make it all work.


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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540321
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What Dave said ,you can not use the early cover on the VVT blocks, it will bolt on to the block but there isn't enough room for the phaser to fit under the cover.

I can't comment on the Jesel kit but the Preefix kit WILL NOT work on the VVT blocks...…...BEEN THERER TRIED IT < AND DOES NOT WORK.

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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: ric3xrt] #2540328
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Cascar motor has a distributor. What block are they using?

Rick Talbot is the guy you want to talk to

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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: sixpackgut] #2540415
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Cascar motor has a distributor. What block are they using?

Rick Talbot is the guy you want to talk to


I've got one and it won't work on a VVT block.
They are made for early 5.7 and 6.1.
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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: sixpackgut] #2540499
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Cascar motor has a distributor. What block are they using?



Alum based off of the 6.1.


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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: ric3xrt] #2540579
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My project is going down hill fast...Anyone want to buy a set of ported heads?

So tired of the lack of ability to get parts. VVT I am told has been around for a long while now. To put one of these in the particular car I have, it has to have a distributor of some kind. The Jesel requires an external water pump and oil pump and is not high on my list at the moment.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540594
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wish I had the money for some nice ported heads.

Kinda stinks for the old school guys trying to run the new hemi, no distributor, carb intakes are really really expensive or they suck. I dont get the lack of usefull afordable parts for one of the best PR car engines ever.


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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540645
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Why do you ned to run a distributor? For what class/org.?

Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: HotRodDave] #2540651
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I am currently tied to the rules and just trying to do somthing different. Coil on wire is not currently allowed.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540655
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what about like what BES did in the engine masters and run a distributor off a little belt drive thingy?


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Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: HotRodDave] #2540827
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Originally Posted By HotRodDave
what about like what BES did in the engine masters and run a distributor off a little belt drive thingy?


I am told I need to switch to a dry timing belt setup, yet the BES one looks like a stock cover...That's what I wanted to do...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: VVT and a Prefix or Jesel Distributor [Re: Dragula] #2540853
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That's what he did Stock cover.







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