Re: Change in plans
[Re: BradH]
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Nice car. What’s up with that one
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Re: Change in plans
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Nice car. What’s up with that one Bought it in August 1995. Tired of putting $$$ into it and still not running since 2009(?) after the last time I hurt the engine. Let somebody else deal with.
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Re: Change in plans
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Is it “sold”, or are you just having it finished somewhere else?
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Re: Change in plans
[Re: BradH]
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Hopefully it’s not gone so long that the wife gets used to seeing the garage empty.
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Re: Change in plans
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Glad to hear you're getting it back together. I always enjoy reading about your updates and track reports...every 10 years LOL, and it's so much cooler than a new challenger. I've found my projects take a LOT longer these days.
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Re: Change in plans
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Oh good, sounds like you got some help. The to-do list must be a long one.
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Re: Change in plans
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There was so much stuff piled on & around the Challenger that even w/ the car gone it doesn't look "empty". What a freakin' mess... Next task on my list is clean & organize the garage so I can do my part while Mike's doing his. BTW, you totally spoiled my intent to make everyone think I sold the old P O S... Bout time so you can test all those bitty carbs then step up to a DOMINATOR............ Pretty soon Brad, petty soooonnnnn............
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Re: Change in plans
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Is it “sold”, or are you just having it finished somewhere else? Divide & Conquer Divide and Conquer works for me too. If I have something I can't quite deal with then it is time to phone a friend. Sometimes a second set of hands makes the job go 10x faster.
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Re: Change in plans
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I'd come up w/ a project plan that covered a whole bunch o' things around the whole car, but hit sanity overload when it came down to making real progress again. My last big push got the engine assembled and on Dwayne's dyno in Oct 2017. But then I needed to start taking it back apart to deal w/ numerous oil leaks, the crappy Mr. Gasket MLS (Must Leak Something?) head gaskets, etc. Normally I'd take it a bite at a time and pull in my friend Mike Hynes to help w/ another set of hands, a different skill set, and to keep making headway.
This time I've hired Mike to work through a set of tasks simply to make sure they get done while I can focus on the engine & trans work. When we rolled the MoPig into his garage on Sunday and parked it next to his work-of-art '71 440 Six Pack Challenger restoration (he did just about EVERYTHING but the paint and some hard-core body work, IIRC), it was a real-life E-body Beauty and The Beast comparison. Yeah, mine's an old rusty P O S... with a 670 HP engine waiting to get put back into it. The chassis is only legal for 10.0s, so the next question will be how close to that am I capable of getting the car.
Progress has been sooo sloooow and stop & go since I pulled the engine out back in spring of 2009(?). I'm hoping this strategy creates momentum and gets it moving on its own power before the tracks close this fall.
EDIT: Added another pic from driveway w/ partial view of the modified T/A repro hood to the right of the car. Ain't nuthin' subtle about it. Considering new plates for it, of which one option is LC73R. Not expecting too many people to pick up on that, but ZIPPY will, if he sees this.
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Re: Change in plans
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Divide and conquer. The Admiral would be proud. He did teach you something after all. That car provided a lot of inspiration for me over the years. I recall printing out a post you did on Moparts back in late 90's or early 2000's where you methodically described what you had done up to that point and the results from the changes. It was in my desk drawer for years! Good to see it getting a new lease on life. Didn't you have an A12 car, too, at one point?
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Re: Change in plans
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Divide and conquer. The Admiral would be proud. He did teach you something after all. That car provided a lot of inspiration for me over the years. I recall printing out a post you did on Moparts back in late 90's or early 2000's where you methodically described what you had done up to that point and the results from the changes. It was in my desk drawer for years! Good to see it getting a new lease on life. Didn't you have an A12 car, too, at one point? The Admiral taught me a lot of things, but very little about cars. If he'd had any interest, he'd have been a really good Rally Car racer; he was a pretty sharp driver under a wide variety of road conditions. Not sure if being a Navy jet pilot had anything to do w/ that, or both were simply a result of him being who he was. That post in the late '90s may have been my first "real" Moparts.com post... Wow, that was a LONG time ago. Yep, had an A12 RR, too. It's been gone now longer than I actually owned it, unfortunately.
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Re: Change in plans
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LC73R does means something to me. Tip of the hat to you from Detroit, from the funny looking white cursive F instead of the big blue M.
One of my most memorable posts over the years was pre-UBB moparts, where you went over a bunch of things that had been done, and it sounded like quite a list...and at the end, you said something like...Oh well, it's all food for thought. I still have to figure out where the "missing" power (or ET or whatever)is.
Nobody had any good suggestions. If I remember right, at the end it was a cam issue(?)
I've sure enjoyed reading about your journey.
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Re: Change in plans
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Glad to see that it is not going anywhere. Get it done & start making some passes. Someone has to, mine still is not done yet?
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Re: Change in plans
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If I remember right, at the end it was a cam issue(?)
Yep. Finally figured out the cam started eating lobes after about 1100 miles when the car "mysteriously" lost about .3 and 3 MPH between a couple of track visits. Long story short: engine builder ignored cam grinder's spring load recommendations and used his "favorite" SFT springs, which had about 30#s more open pressure than the cam grinder's max open spec. Broke in fine; broke down after about 1000 miles of excessive over-the-nose load. No, he didn't cover the repairs on his dime. And, no, I don't have him do work for me any more. I've sure enjoyed reading about your journey.
Probably more than I've enjoyed living it. Whomever said "Life's about the journey, not the destination" wasn't on a journey with multi-year long delays that repeatedly pushed back getting to the destination.
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Re: Change in plans
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My memory isn’t that good........ I don’t remember that post at all!!😲
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Re: Change in plans
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....and here I thought one of us had come to there senses! If I ever came to my senses, nobody on the internet would ever hear from me again.
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Re: Change in plans
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....and here I thought one of us had come to there senses! If I ever came to my senses, nobody on the internet would ever hear from me again. .... I’m to the point that every time the car is on the jack stands (which is often), I’m worried it may never come down again.
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Re: Change in plans
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I want to see more pictures of the hood if you don't mind sharing them. From front, side, and from inside the car if u have them. Glad u are getting it back out
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Re: Change in plans
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Havent seen that car in a long time......be good to see it back out.
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Re: Change in plans
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Get a boat it will be fun they said. So I did when I retired in 2010 and it’s still sitting there to this day without touching the river. Only thing I can say was at least I bought a used one. Maybe this Fall. Lol 😂
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Re: Change in plans
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Lol, a few of us definitely remember that car.....was impressed because you always drove it to the track....havent been out with our cars too much this year do to the weather but hopefully I can make it to the MIR Mopar race and do some testing.
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Re: Change in plans
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Havent seen that car in a long time......be good to see it back out. So much for my belief that only four other people on the planet remember seeing my car at the track; looks like there are five. Make that six...
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Re: Change in plans
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Havent seen that car in a long time......be good to see it back out. So much for my belief that only four other people on the planet remember seeing my car at the track; looks like there are five. Make that six... Nope; you & Douglas are two of the original four, Mike Hynes is the third, and John Dallain(sp?) is the fourth. I did forget include Jim Hanrahan, probably because he dropped off the radar years ago. Guess that does make six, though.
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Re: Change in plans
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No updates on my effort, other than my garage isn't quite as cluttered after having spent some time sorting thru sh!t.
Mike's actually made progress, for which I have some photographic evidence. The things I've asked him to take on run the gamut from replacing fuel system components I'm concerned were damaged from extended E10 fuel exposure to handling some body & paint stuff to slightly "re-image" the car per some ideas I had.
I provided him the remaining '70 B5 paint I received w/ the car in 1995, but the color match is off enough that it doesn't appear to have been what the car was actually painted with before I bought it. The front & rear bumpers have been relocated flush w/ the body as w/ '70-72 Challengers, we've gone w/ body-color bumpers & rear tail light trim, the tail light modules are now black, the grille's been blacked out, wheel well bright trim removed... just a bunch of stuff. Still definitely a "20+" footer, yet different.
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Re: Change in plans
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Looks good, any progress is good progress. Exactly. Looks like Mike is getting right after it!!
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Re: Change in plans
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What's the deal with the patch that was welded inside the engine compartment on the left inner fender? I like the red pin stripe on the grill Also the crack on the left front frame rail is this common on the mopars ? I think someone else has found a crack on the frame rail, Doug with the 64 dodge I believe
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Re: Change in plans
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Good progress. The body color bumpers look really nice on there, I like it better than the black.
Let's see that cool looking hood scoop...
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Re: Change in plans
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What's the deal with the patch that was welded inside the engine compartment on the left inner fender?
I think that's where the battery mounted originally. Not unusual to have rust from the acid.
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Re: Change in plans
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What's the deal with the patch that was welded inside the engine compartment on the left inner fender?
I think that's where the battery mounted originally. Not unusual to have rust from the acid. The battery was still in the front when I bought the car. If that area had already rusted when the front end got bent up (per Mike's ), maybe it needed to be patched before the battery tray could be mounted there again.
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Re: Change in plans
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Let's see that cool looking hood scoop... Probably nothing that hasn't been posted here at some point in the past, but since I don't feel like digging around for pics in old posts...
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Re: Change in plans
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I like the red pin stripe on the grill I wanted the entire grill blacked out, but Mike thought the bright trim still looked decent enough that he put it back on. I think the red stripe was from the factory... I may go "full black" anyways, if I don't want to look at the "fish mouth" grill any longer. Also the crack on the left front frame rail is this common on the mopars ? I think someone else has found a crack on the frame rail, Doug with the 64 dodge I believe No idea. Mine had the rust hole in the frame when I bought it, but I'm pretty sure the cracks developed during the time I've owned it. I figure that every time it came off the line w/ the front wheels jerked 4-6 inches in the air that there was some stress being applied around the front suspension, etc.
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Re: Change in plans
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Lookin good Brad! I also found a crack on the front driver's side frame rail of my cuda. Near the front K frame bolt. Welded a patch over it and no more problems...been that way since the car was running in the 10s, so 2003 or so?
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Re: Change in plans
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Looks good, any progress is good progress. Exactly. Looks like Mike is getting right after it!! Yep. He told me today his work will be done by the weekend, so the car should be returning to La Casa de Chaos soon. Now it's up to me -- again -- to make sure things keep moving in the right direction.
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Re: Change in plans
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Did you put the fuel pump inside the tank with the new setup? I think tanks with internal pumps are a bolt in deal for E body cars now. Naah... had purchased a standard replacement tank and a spare Mallory 140 pump quite a ways back... simpler & cheaper to do a basic parts swap at this point.
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