Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? #2531771
08/05/18 02:03 AM
08/05/18 02:03 AM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline OP
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline OP
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
360 iron block/iron heads/short duration (30 minutes) racing/stock bolts. Would you guys recommend any thing such as spraying it with Permatex "high tack". retorquing after first fireup after it cools. breaking loose each head bolt 3/4 turn then back to full torque. or anything else. Heads/decks are flat. My OCD wants more. thank you for your time.


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2531822
08/05/18 11:17 AM
08/05/18 11:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish Offline
master
Bad340fish  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
Tulsa OK
I ran them on my 11:1 360 with aluminum heads. I never had any issues, I used them with bolts and with studs over the years. The one time I did go through the trouble to retorque after a heat cycle not a single one moved so I never did it again.


68 Barracuda Formula S 340
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: Bad340fish] #2531883
08/05/18 02:09 PM
08/05/18 02:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline OP
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline OP
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Alright, it sounds if I stick to std procedures/no shortcuts & if I see an issue (bad threads etc) then resolve it that I will be fine. thank you.


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2531942
08/05/18 04:45 PM
08/05/18 04:45 PM

C
crabman173
Unregistered
crabman173
Unregistered
C



I ran them on a 12:1 360 for years with bolts and studs--I ran clear tube on EVAC I would start to see a "mist" or condensation in one side after a while--That was the sign to replace the gasket Before it caused trouble
Usually could get 150 runs before trouble--Studs did seem to help some --when checked the outside row ( short ones) would always be a tad loose--started giving them an extra yank when torquing down and that went away
I have always used a spray Hylomar on Cometics but never on the 1008's small blocks--ten bolts = gasket trouble sooner or later in a small block Mopar

Last edited by crabman173; 08/05/18 04:46 PM.
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: ] #2531956
08/05/18 05:19 PM
08/05/18 05:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,184
PA.
pittsburghracer Offline
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Offline
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,184
PA.
I’m not a lover of bolts on race engines since you are relying on NC threads. I like the smoothness of NF threads and their clamping abilities.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: Bad340fish] #2531981
08/05/18 06:34 PM
08/05/18 06:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,852
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,852
Rio Linda, CA
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
The one time I did go through the trouble to retorque after a heat cycle not a single one moved so I never did it again.


Do you mean you applied the original torque to the stationary bolt and it didn't move? If so, that doesn't mean it was at the correct torque. Like Robert said, first loosen the bolt and then re-torque; correct torque value can only be achieved on a moving fastener.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2532033
08/05/18 08:39 PM
08/05/18 08:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,813
A collage of whims
topside Offline
Too Many Posts
topside  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,813
A collage of whims
13.0:1 with alum heads & studs, no tricks, no re-torque, zero issues.

Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: ] #2532069
08/05/18 10:05 PM
08/05/18 10:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline OP
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline OP
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Quote:
I have always used a spray Hylomar on Cometics but never on the 1008's small blocks--ten bolts = gasket trouble sooner or later in a small block Mopar
I do have a new can of spray Hylomar sitting on the front room table. & that reminds me I coulda swore someone said to use it on head bolts ???


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2532185
08/06/18 10:54 AM
08/06/18 10:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,544
Syracuse,NY
CompWedgeEngines Offline
master
CompWedgeEngines  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,544
Syracuse,NY
Do not use sealer on the gaskets. Use the standard advised installation procedures. No issue. Morerr important that both surfaces are flat. Some used to like the finish of a Blockmaster 85 machine, due to the fact it gave the gasket some " grip". Not sure on that one, but as stated, they will work fine.

Last edited by CompWedgeEngines; 08/06/18 10:56 AM.

RIP Monte Smith

Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.

WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2532234
08/06/18 12:25 PM
08/06/18 12:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,760
Windsor, ON, Canada
D
Diplomat360 Offline
top fuel
Diplomat360  Offline
top fuel
D

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,760
Windsor, ON, Canada
Not a racing application, but when I switched to 1008 any previous seeping issues (the block to head mating surface at the front and rear edges of the block) dissapeared.

I followed the standard torque directions, the only difference being I used ARP fasteners and their lube.

Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2532269
08/06/18 01:38 PM
08/06/18 01:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,074
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,074
Niles , Ohio
Installed lots of them and the BB one.Plus we used FelPros at work for all heads.Never used a thing.Just nice and clean and never a problem.Have them on my sons 360 with 10.8 comp.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2532292
08/06/18 02:43 PM
08/06/18 02:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,684
W. Kentucky
justinp61 Offline
I Live Here
justinp61  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,684
W. Kentucky
I've never had any issues with the 1008 gasket using bolts or studs, no sealer ever. Since my engines are built to run on pump 93 the most compression I've ran is 11.4-1.

My current 434 is 11.2-1 and uses studs, I did come back two days after the heads were installed and one at a time break the nuts loose and re torque. I marked them all with a paint pen and was surprised that some moved almost a quarter turm before reaching torque, all of them moved some. I don't think this is neceaasry though.

Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: justinp61] #2532392
08/06/18 05:54 PM
08/06/18 05:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline OP
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline OP
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Alright, sounds good no sealer & std procedures. thanks guys


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: RapidRobert] #2536801
08/15/18 04:26 PM
08/15/18 04:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,442
NW Chicago suburban area
Mopar Mitch Offline
pro stock
Mopar Mitch  Offline
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,442
NW Chicago suburban area
Robert -- I'm a former FP engineer (and I wrote the installation tips for all the aftermarket gasket sets)... rule of thumb:

Fiber face = no chemical needed
Metal face = apply thin even coat of tacky sealer (not RTV!)

The 1008 gasket is fiber faced and already has an anti-stick coating that give a little additional sealing assurance (but the primary purpose is anti-stick for easy/clean gasket release if/when needed).

Just be certain of flatness, smoothness and proper torque specs.


Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
Re: felpro 1008 any tricks to help sealing? [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2537671
08/17/18 02:57 PM
08/17/18 02:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline OP
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline OP
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Mitch you're the man! all noted. (just my OCD telling me that there has to be "something" else that I can do that will "improve" things!)


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1