Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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I WANT THE BEST. I HAVE STAGE 6 HEADS I WANT TO BE 12.5 TO 13 COMP. BORE SIZE WILL DEPEND ON THE KIT. I WILL RUN A ROLLER CAM.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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I used Molnar crank and rods. Mahle pistons. All of it was very nice stuff! There is no "kit" but AndyF has a good piston selection chart in the tech section that helps you with your selection.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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Check out the discount section on 440source. Looks like a good deal on a crank and set of rods.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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Check out the discount section on 440source. Looks like a good deal on a crank and set of rods. And they are fine at 750/800 hp
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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If you want the best, and plan on using a stock block, invest in a center wieghted crank to make the block live a long life. I highly sugest you go with a 400 block also at the power level you want. When you say best, then talk to some of the great engine builders on this board and have them set you up with individual choices for pistons, etc. Your best results will come from going that route. Ask me how i know😀😀 your dyno results will love you for it!
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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I used Molnar crank and rods. Mahle pistons. All of it was very nice stuff! There is no "kit" but AndyF has a good piston selection chart in the tech section that helps you with your selection. I have Molnar also with JE pistons....excellent quality on the crank and rods.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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I WANT THE BEST. I HAVE STAGE 6 HEADS I WANT TO BE 12.5 TO 13 COMP. BORE SIZE WILL DEPEND ON THE KIT. I WILL RUN A ROLLER CAM. What cc are the heads? You'll need to know that to pick the correct piston. There might not be an off the shelf stroker kit that gives you what you want. If it was me I'd use a Molnar crank with 7.100 rods and then look for a piston that gave me the compression ratio I wanted. Are your Stage VI heads any good? I think they would be the weak link in your engine.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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Two “problems” I see with the proposed build of “750-800hp”.
The stock block and stage 6 heads.
The stock block will break(at some point), and the stage 6 heads likely aren’t big enough to make 750-800hp(unless they are the big Chapman’s).....without help from spray or boost.
If the goal is a “real” 750-800hp NA for a reliable bracket type build, I think the plan could use a few revisions.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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Spoiler Alert: Sarcasm ahead!!!!!
He did say BEST.....
If you want the BEST then you start with a Winberg or Sonny Leonard billet crank, Carrillo or Crower rods (there are others but key is they have to cost over $1000 per set), Gibtec billet pistons, pins with DLC coating. You'll have $5000+ in the rotating assembly, but it will be the best at least the best made in USA stuff.
Then it goes in an aftermarket block, because it'd be a shame for a stock block to wipe out that amount of money in parts.
Then you put your Stage VI heads on Ebay and buy heads that really work.
Or maybe you didn't understand the meaning of the word, "best".
R. Who is Sonny Leonard? I know Sonny BRYANT makes crankshafts but not so sure about Sonny Leonard
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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I wouldn't spend a bunch on crank and rods for a stock block build b/c when the block breaks, it'll likely take the rotating assembly with it.
Like Fast68 and dogdays said, you need better cylinder heads.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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If the stage 6’s will in fact be used, along with a stock block, I’d build either a 505RB or 511B, flat top pistons, easy on parts roller cam, and it would make whatever it makes.... which should still be enough to cause some issues for the stock block.
With std port stage 6’s, I don’t feel that 700hp would be a “slam dunk” by any means, on the dyno here.
You could always swap out the top end down the road for something more suited towards bigger power numbers......if you feel that you’d like to expidite the demise of the block.
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Re: 440 STROKER KIT
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I have a strong suspicion the OP has the stage 6 RB intake already.
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