Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/07/18 10:39 PM
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Hey Guys,
What are your recommendations for a OE level restoration shop on the East coast, preferably in the Southeast?
Thanks!
God Bless America, Our Troops and Their Families !
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/08/18 01:21 AM
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How far do you want to go? I sent my Cuda to Clark Classic Restorations in Greenville,NC...I gutted the car completely, gave them a roller, I restored and rebuilt many parts here at home(NY), they did the paint and body, came out beyond my expectations...really unbelievable. I rebuilt some major components and brought them down for them to install because I only have a small one car garage. They'll do whatever you want, very easy to work with. I researched them thoroughly for 3 years before I pulled the trigger with them. Everyone that has seen the car has just been blown away, they did their work, but I did mine too. But they gave me everything and more than I asked for. PM for more details if you want, do your homework. Good Luck.
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/08/18 11:03 AM
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DaveRS23
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http://troyangellyrestorations.com/A very good and well respected shop here in deep southern Illinois with lots of Mopar experience. Nice people to do business with, too.
Master, again and still
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/08/18 11:38 PM
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Thanks, I'll reach out to some of these guys !!
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/10/18 11:31 AM
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Truly OE ?
You will be hard pressed to beat Mike Mancini.
Nothing against the others mentioned here. I'm not saying these others cant do it. ( Troy Angelly has by the way ) Mike finished my 340 Duster in time to take it to MCACN where is was very well received. The car will be displayed in his both at Carlisle if you want to see his work close up.
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/10/18 12:09 PM
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Also keep in mind that often times the difference between a true "O.E." restoration, and a really nice "show-field" level restoration comes down to available parts. If you show up for judging at an O.E. judged event (Mopar Nationals O.E. etc.) you won't likely score top honors with reproduction parts all over the car. It may look perfect to a typical onlooker but NOS or production line parts with proper date codes, finishes, etc. are what separates an O.E. car from the rest. The tougher parts for most cars often come down to wear parts like tires, shocks, belts, hoses, etc.
My point? Don't expect the shop you choose to magically come up with the parts you need, most will rely on you for most or all of that aside from available reproduction parts. Some will try to help with a parts locating service option at a cost (usually a heavy one) as it can be a very time consuming process. .02
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/10/18 08:11 PM
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I met and spoke to Mike Mancini a few times and discussed my car with him, he obviously could do the job to the utmost scrutiny, another name that comes to mind is Roger Gibson and Frank Badalson. I've spoken to Frank also and bought a few of the smaller detail parts for a OE type resto, which i tried to replicate, on my budget, knowing I would never have the car judged. I'll agree with what Scott say's, I did have him restore my carbs which took me 18 years to find(correct dated '71 carbs), I also searched out and installed as many NOS and date coded parts and restored myself or had restored as many of the original parts on my car...list too long to name here. I went with CCR for a show quality glass like finish with all the overspray touches, with all the paint dabs and finishes and detailing I documented during disassembly and as much judging info I could muster that would pass with most of the hardened mopar afficionado's looking at the car at a show, even show field such as Carlisle or the Nat's. Would it pass a tear down by Frank B. or Dave W.? Not a chance, but I drive the car, on a cursory glance...I have the #'s alternator, radiator, distributor, carbs, NOS power booster and M/C, ballast resistor, repro battery, all M&H harnesses, repro hoses, plastic clamps, shocks, but my OE dash restored by MM at Instrument Specialties, all correct finishes on front end and inspection marks, rear end completely done and new stamps and paint dabs, I'd probably do pretty good up to the AM/FM CD bluetooth radio and Alpine speakers in dash mounted in custom bracket under single speaker cover, dual Blaupunkt 6x9's...I made concessions as far as making it a great looking almost OE resto. That all being said, I'd have to say for the OP that Mike Mancini, Roger Gibson, Frank Badalson if you're going for all out concourse judging, not that CCR can't do it, they just don't have the name recognition yet I guess, though they did win at the Nats I think with a Superbird...but a friend of mine did pick up on a item that the judges missed, and he supplied them with the corrected Superbird only item.
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/10/18 11:27 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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In defining the criteria for an O.E. restoration by my definition would be O.E. judging at either the Mopar Nationals or Dave Wise's ICCA O.E. judging. Both systems use multiple judges to scrutinize the car in extreme detail for many hours while on a lift etc. most cars have a possible score surpassing 3,000 points depending on the model and optional equipment. As compared to a car judged at MCACN where every car is sitting on the ground and gone over in a very short time period by the judges, receive a much more abbreviated judging, and the cars can score a maximum of 1,000 points. They call the cars at MCACN that achieve high scores "Gold" cars, but that isnt "O.E. Gold". it's a much lower standard which allows participants a much easier avenue to achieve "Gold" than it would be achieving the award in a true O.E. program.
I've had multiple people ask me for references when it comes to restoration shop choices and my standard answer usually includes this: If the shop has produced a restoration that has accomplished O.E. (Bronze/Silver/Gold at the Mopar Nationals) then they are then qualified as an O.E. capable shop. So, when it comes to achieving true "O.E." there are likely a number of other shops that could PROBABLY achieve it if they were supplied the right parts to get there, some customers just don't bring them the tools (parts) to accomplish it.
All that said, what shakerjoe said above is the case with almost everyone, basically that truely reaching the O.E. level is not thier goal, they just want the car to appear that way with compromises according to parts cost or availability. Just depends on what your true goals are for the car.
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/12/18 12:11 PM
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DaveRS23
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I did an OE Cert car......once. The parts were near impossible to find then, let alone now. And it took 2 years just to get into the program at the 'Nats. So you had to 'time' your resto to that schedule. Then I realized that I really couldn't drive the car. The roads were always too wet or too dusty or whatever. Running through water at any speed would cause hours of cleaning under the car if the car's status was to be maintained. So I eventually sold the car because I couldn't really enjoy driving it. As a side note, it takes 95 points for Gold status. My GTX got 94.75.
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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06/12/18 01:32 PM
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Great information as always!! Thanks guys. Special thanks to the guys that PM'ed me with additional info. It's easier to have a OE level resto guy do a lesser quality resto than it is for a non OE level resto guy to step his game up.
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Re: Recommendations for OE level restoration shops in the East?
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07/04/18 09:11 AM
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Regardless . make the decision to go truly OE or NOT,,,,,, BEFORE you have ANY work done
AND THEN DOUBLE YOUR BUDGET!
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