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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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03/11/09 09:00 AM
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RedFish
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Yes Jim, I would take a full set too if you can find the material. I've looked everywhere and can't find anything.
I think Funkbrothers was selling reconditioned ones on ebay a while back but I would not buy from them and I just need the fuzz and not the whole bracket.
Howard
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
[Re: RT_6_PakShaker]
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03/11/09 10:07 AM
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I brought this stuff to Tom's attention several years ago, he was trying to find the supplier.
I used this material when I restored my Challenger, you will need several kits, I ran the strips parallel to the plate, the adhesive is very strong, it is a little time consuming but looks nice, and works great.
http://www.rickscamaros.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=WW%2D31&dept%5Fid=3399
How much material do they give you?
It LOOKS close.
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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03/11/09 05:37 PM
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They used two different materials (maybe more??) On the ones I have (some from my original 1971 doors, some from donor doors of another year) it happens that the different materials are on the two different types of the brackets. So it could be a 'type of bracket' thing, or a 'depends on year' thing  Either way, these are definitely different material - one is more 'hairy' (right)and one is more 'fuzzy' (left)  I think you can see both in the above posted pics, as well as my pic below. If you need to see the detail click on the attachment to get the full sized pic, it is pretty clear.
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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03/12/09 10:53 AM
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Also noteworthy Jim... some of these have a soft rubber cushion glued under them as well. Rick 
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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03/13/09 08:32 AM
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Which is what year? Are these from E bodies? Are the other "bodies" the same material?
Also looks like theres a backing on the hair ones that wrap around the bracket.
Is that hair one in the one picture removed from the bracket? If so can you lay it out flat and take a picture and some measurements? I found a company that ACTUALLY makes the stuff but they have MASSIVE minimums.
Also how "tall" is the hair on each? Have a set of calipers to measure accurately?
Jim, yes these are all for a Challenger. The fuzzy ones are off my 71, the hairy ones I can't be sure - they were either also off my 71 or off the donor doors which were not 71 (don't know if they were 70, 72, 73 or 74 - I suspect 70)
On BOTH types the backing material wraps around the brackets - you can see it on the fuzzys in the pic if you look carefully
Yes I still have those and certain I have some material removed from the brackets, I am happy to take some pics of that and measurements too as soon as I get a chance (hopefully tonight!)
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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03/13/09 01:03 PM
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If anyone can contribute a picture (with a scale besise the part for scaling refrence) I'd appreciate it. Also what year and model (I know there are other body styles than Cuda's and Challengers  )
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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11/23/09 02:58 PM
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Does anyone know if the material is available at a local source? Walmart, craft supply,etc? I have a 70 Challenger in real need of these updated! Thanks Brad 
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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07/18/11 09:22 PM
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My 73 Challenger has them. Yours should too.
Yup, that's why your glass is scratched and why your glass rattles when you close your door. Got to use them. Easy to glue something on there that is better than glass on metal.
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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07/18/11 10:59 PM
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I just had to do set for a 70 vert I'm working on with new AMD glass. I used the thickest black teri cloth I could find. Was able to reuse the foam padding. Seems to work alright. This is in a high dollar resto-mod so I dought it will see alot of window action.
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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07/18/11 11:42 PM
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Has anyone tried stopping by a glass shop & seeing what the installers have... I recently did just that for my Falcon project & they had rolls of material with different types of black fur for window channels, guides & for making catwhiskers....
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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07/20/11 01:11 PM
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Has anyone tried stopping by a glass shop & seeing what the installers have... I recently did just that for my Falcon project & they had rolls of material with different types of black fur for window channels, guides & for making catwhiskers....
Good info. I'm gonna stop by and ask. Theres a place RIGHT across the street from my day job.
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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07/28/11 06:54 AM
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I've thought about designing a spring loaded replacement for this "cheesy" Chrysler designed part. This way the window would always be under compression regardless of it's position on the track. There's no way to adjust these where they are in compression at all postions of the window up / down, therefore making the glass rattle when you slam the door. Matt @ MCB www.tuffwheelrestoration.com
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Re: Anyone make E body side glass guide hairy felt?
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07/28/11 08:49 PM
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I believe these parts are more for additional strength for people who close the doors by the extended glass, rather than for holding it from rattling in the door. It seems that when the door is completely assembled and adjusted properly, that the belt weatherstripping holds it fairly tight from the inside and outside at the top, the mechanism doing this from the bottom, and the downstop preventing the glass from ever going below the belt weatherstripping. These felts, in addition to the felted rubber bumper on the outside are always just supporting the middle of the glass. Additionally, these felt brackets can be adjusted fairly tight due to the thickness of the felt, at least when that thickness is still there, before it's worn down.
My gut feeling after having taken every part out of the door, putting every part back in, and adjusting it properly, is that the factory did a pretty good job of engineering the window mechanisms.
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