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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Uncle Barry] #2495904
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Your set up is matched and you don't need to change anything.We have had similar setups and when going to a bigger tube header and collecter found a slight drop in et and mph.If you were running a 2.30 or 2.40 intake valve and a 1.98 exhaust valve and over 540" you would benefit from the larger tube.One thing we did notice is with a heavy car a 16"to18" header collecter extension can be helpful.

Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Uncle Barry] #2495945
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Change mufflers. With small block I picked up 2-3 tenths going from those to pypes racepros, but any straight through muffler is going to be better.

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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Uncle Barry] #2496013
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I also run the 2-1/8" X 3" B/E Body Super Comps on my 528" Hemi in my 70' Challenger. I figured it was the choking point on my engine but it still made great power for a street engine. On spray they may be my limiting factor but I do plan on going to some custom bigger dia step headers eventually. I added themocouples & O2 bungs to mine for tuning while on dyno & in the car.

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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2496206
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
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I went 9.49 on some tti 2 1/8 and 3"pipes w/two chamber flowmasters. up

I bet it'd be close to two tenths quicker w/ something less restrictive though.

A pro stocker would probably run 7s w/ some Super Turbos on it. Does that mean super turbos are gonna work good for a 9 sec car since they went 7s on something real fast? They're still horribly restrictive.

normally I run the 3.5 pipes w/bullets., I put these on for something else(can't remember what tho.)but decided to make a pass and was surprise at the et can't remember the mph.

Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Uncle Barry] #2496464
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3-1/2" Bullets on mine also.


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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Uncle Barry] #2496527
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I picked up 0.4 in the 1/4 in a well sorted mid 11 sec car by going from TTI 3" H-pipe system with 2 chambers to 3.5" x-pipe with straight through mufflers dumping before the axle...EFI took care of the jetting for me, lol.

While it might be quicker with a larger exhaust, is it worth it if it is a true street car?


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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: OUTLAWD] #2496530
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Originally Posted By OUTLAWD
While it might be quicker with a larger exhaust, is it worth it if it is a true street car?

Yes. devil


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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2496687
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We run 2.125 TTI headers 1230 hp 5.0 on 26's at 142 mph NA 173 @ 8.0 1/4. 565 inches, 9300 rpm going thru the traps in the quarter.

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Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: hustlin hoosier] #2496751
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Originally Posted By hustlin hoosier
We run 2.125 TTI headers 1230 hp 5.0 on 26's at 142 mph NA 173 @ 8.0 1/4. 565 inches, 9300 rpm going thru the traps in the quarter.

Wow! That's bookin'! I think this answers the header question...

Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Dave Hall] #2496757
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
Originally Posted By hustlin hoosier
We run 2.125 TTI headers 1230 hp 5.0 on 26's at 142 mph NA 173 @ 8.0 1/4. 565 inches, 9300 rpm going thru the traps in the quarter.

Wow! That's bookin'! I think this answers the header question...

True dat.......wondering if it's can benefit from a bigger header? work

Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: Dave Hall] #2496780
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
Originally Posted By hustlin hoosier
We run 2.125 TTI headers 1230 hp 5.0 on 26's at 142 mph NA 173 @ 8.0 1/4. 565 inches, 9300 rpm going thru the traps in the quarter.

Wow! That's bookin'! I think this answers the header question...
I agree

Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: racerx] #2496783
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Originally Posted By racerx
Originally Posted By Dave Hall
Originally Posted By hustlin hoosier
We run 2.125 TTI headers 1230 hp 5.0 on 26's at 142 mph NA 173 @ 8.0 1/4. 565 inches, 9300 rpm going thru the traps in the quarter.

Wow! That's bookin'! I think this answers the header question...

True dat.......wondering if it's can benefit from a bigger header? work

iagree My thoughts exactly. It is crazy fast, but has it ever been tested w/ a bigger header? I don't think I've ever seen an engine making that kind of power w/ that small a header on it.

IMO the OP's car is just fine w/ the 2 1/8" header and likely would see no improvement w/ a 2 1/4". The mufflers he's running are the restriction.


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: hustlin hoosier] #2497053
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Originally Posted By hustlin hoosier
We run 2.125 TTI headers 1230 hp 5.0 on 26's at 142 mph NA 173 @ 8.0 1/4. 565 inches, 9300 rpm going thru the traps in the quarter.


What's the collector size?

Re: Horsepower limits with 2.125" hemi TTI headers & 3" exhaust [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2497259
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted By OUTLAWD
While it might be quicker with a larger exhaust, is it worth it if it is a true street car?

Yes. devil


Obviously!


Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...

71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts
66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
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