NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
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There have been many, many posts, on how "boring, this or that class is, and how such and such class is what people REALLY want to see". Well, I have NHRA All-Access, and as it turned out, due to many unavoidable on track issues, over all four days, the Lucas cars were the LAST cars down the track. Pro Mod, which has been touted MANY TIMES here, as "what puts butts into the stands", because it's so much more exciting and "what fans really want to watch, not that belly button Pro Stock crap". Well let me tell you, whe the Pro Cars were finished, the beloved Pro Mods had about the same number of remaining fans, as they have at my local bracket track. Top Dragster, Top Sportman and Pro Mod don't appear to be any bigger draw than Super Pro. I personally enjoy all of the classes, but evidently, as witnessed today, a large percentage don't feel the same way.
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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04/29/18 11:18 PM
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A local friend of mine went there to run Top Sportsman and last time I looked there were only 15 cars entered. How pathetic
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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04/29/18 11:20 PM
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Weather here at my home 30 miles from z Max was 100% perfect--we stayed home and grilled out--Top Fuel is something you must see one time after that it is never the same as that first time many feel same way Crowds for anything and I mean garden show, races , NHRA, NASCAR, Local dirt track, circus etc is all declining Looks like Gun Shows only deal that is getting bigger What does that say about our country
1966 Jr Fuel could draw 100 cars at a 70 car field of Top Fuel--because every guy or few guys that had an Esso station or garage could build one cheap and have fun No way now when a JR Dragster can be a $20K deal Crazy world
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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04/30/18 07:03 AM
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http://www.sydneydragway.com.au/events/gulf-western-oil-nitro-thunder/Cole heres the link to this weekends round of IHRA here in Sydney . Numbers are certainly down in all classes Yes the yanks have it better than us . Tex
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
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04/30/18 11:56 AM
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I watch it this afternoon, the stands where not anywhere near full all day that I saw Times are changing You need to take in to consideration the size of those stands. The crowds at ZMAX Saturday and Sunday would fill most venues many times over. The NHRA National Events have sold out several times this year. To once again murder the Mark Twain quote, "The death of NHRA Drag Racing has been greatly exaggerated." Bill Lamb
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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04/30/18 01:11 PM
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I watched a little, 4-- Wide does nothing for me , I thought the stands looked fairly full
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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04/30/18 01:25 PM
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I watch it this afternoon, the stands where not anywhere near full all day that I saw Times are changing You need to take in to consideration the size of those stands. The crowds at ZMAX Saturday and Sunday would fill most venues many times over. The NHRA National Events have sold out several times this year. To once again murder the Mark Twain quote, "The death of NHRA Drag Racing has been greatly exaggerated." Bill Lamb Yep. And those who left before the Pro Mod final missed a hell of a good race.
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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04/30/18 01:40 PM
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Doesn't 4 wide favor the faster cars/better drivers? I watched a bit yesterday for the first time.
Since the first 2 to the stripe advance, that means in order to advance you need to beat at least 2 cars. Therefore, a poor driver or mechanical failure in the other lane is FAR less likely to hand you a win.
Likewise, in 2 lane racing, when you get staged next to car/driver that performs really well, you're probably done for the day, even though your performance might have been the 2nd best of the day.
While one of the lesser performances of the next race will advance.
Am I missing something here?
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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04/30/18 01:56 PM
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We've been to the 4-wide deal, once. Lots of noise and sensory overload. But it's for the fans, real drag racing for racers is 2 go down, one comes back. The facility at Charlotte is an awesome place, can't knock that.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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[Re: Leigh]
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04/30/18 11:56 PM
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Well, there's fans of the fuel circus, period. Then there's people who understand and appreciate all or most of the classes. Two different groups, but they all buy tickets and spend money.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
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05/01/18 10:46 AM
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.. if your trying to watch closely at the cars to see if/when they spin and who is out front at that time then 4 wide just doesnt make it.. theres just to much going on in 4 seconds but there is plenty of noise if thats all your in to.. and the event is way quicker
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05/01/18 12:55 PM
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It all looks good on TV watching it on tape delay. They struggled all day and kept falling further and further behind on All Access. Tracks have struggled for years trying to keep two lanes fair and racable so there's no way to keep up with 4 lanes. The drivers not knowing what is happening in the other lanes have to keep at it leading to more engine explosions. Bottom line for me is I hate it.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: NHRA 4 THOUGHTS
[Re: Leigh]
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05/01/18 03:28 PM
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4-wide is for the short-attention-span folks who aren't interested in the details, but only the novelty of the amount of sound generated. I can see where it might help NHRA run through an event with shorter TV times, and where the tracks will see a bump in attendance for awhile, and that it's kind of newsworthy for awhile. But I'm not interested in it. I don't even like (as a spectator) being as far away from the actual track as most places are; almost seems like watching it on TV, except for the aromas. But I'm not the modern demographic, I suppose; I'd rather be a participant, and I grew up in the era when even as a spectator, I'd be within 20 feet of the guardrail. That was risky at times, but it sure was tangible.
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