what up with this starter not having the normal casting number and I cant find entry numbers on the body of it

That is a direct drive 170 tooth manual tranny starter used for some 1966 to 1969 street hemi cars, not on all of them though

yes 426 hemi 4 speed starter just not sure about the casting numbers and lack of Chrysler logo and numbers on body see this thread for tipcke markings

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/6055353/site_id/1

The same type of DD starter was used on other engines, and they're not interchangeable. There should be #s on the mounting flange. 66-67 Hemi was slightly different than 68-69 Hemi too. Perhaps you can try a dry mock up to confirm it's a 426 hemi starter?

Uh oh, I'm getting that sinking feeling. What is the difference?

Why are you getting a sinking feeling? Do you have a 170 tooth hemi flywheel motor?
I had to come up with one of those starters back in 1991 for a car I was restoring for a lady, it was a 1969 Hemi Charger 500 4 speed car that was apart and missing the original starter, I ended up buying a used one from back east off of a 1966 Hemi Charger is what I was told it was from back then, it worked fine

Wasn't that type used on the early Chrysler cars up to when the double-reduction starter came out?
And industrial engines too.

The early starters look a little like the later Hemi direct drive ones but I'm sure they don't interchange due to the extra long rear crank journal sticking out past the back of the blocks another 1.5 to 2.0 inches to the converter or flywheel ring gears on the pre 1962 motors

I believe the '66 (2642445) is different than the '67-69 (2642930).

I believe there are some older 6 cylinder starters that look almost the same as well. Nose cones are slightly different on the bolt pattern.

Cab, I have been buying parts for my 1967 Hemi GTX project for (no kidding) nearly forty years. It's a 4-spd so it has the direct drive starter. I was able to get one about 15 years ago that I believed would work as I thought '66-'69 were all the same. To read that there might be a difference between '66-'67 and '68-'69 just brought back the nightmare of me walking the earth trying to find a '66-'67 Dana. Nothing like hearing something you thought you were through with rears its ugly head. But if the difference is cosmetic, I'm not worried. Who can see the starter once installed anyway?

Just because the starters are different doesn't mean they're not interchangeable; aftermarket starters are one-size-fits-all from '66-'69, the only time "different" matters is to the restoration-original crowd.

all the direct drive hemi starters interchange the 66 just have different markings then the later ones

I think all the '66-'69 Hemi, 4sp, 172 tooth ring gear starters are interchangeable. Our aftermarket version replaces all of them as far as I know:

http://www.robbmcperformance.com/products/hemi_starter.html

OK update I got the starter at the Portland swap meat thanks to all that helped nail it down as a hemi starter was comparing it to one iv had for a wile and thou might be a hemi starter not looking ouite right

the one from Portland



fits bell nice



the one Iv had awile



docent fit so well



now supposedly the ones with the raises along the flange near the threaded bolt hole are hemi and the ones that are straight are slant 6 ones so what is the one Iv had for years fit
hemi from Portland on the right