Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: superchuck]
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02/05/18 03:58 PM
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moparborn
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For the doors, I took off the door panels, sprayed a rust killer in there after cleaning off any surface rust and debris, let it dry ,then I sprayed inside the doors with a bed spray. For the bed, I drill three holes on the inside of the bed sides ,sprayed inside those holes between the inside and outside walls with a rust killer primarily around the wheel wells used a Eastwood frame spray with the hose, I did the same thing with the rocker panels from the backside of The Rocker drilled holes and use rust killer and frame spray in there as well.
Last edited by moparborn; 02/05/18 04:01 PM.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: bbtrux]
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02/05/18 10:57 PM
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ahy
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I think what is best depends on location. The starting point always needs to be solid steel.
For the frame, best is full sand blast, epoxy primer and paint. I did not do that on my truck... next best is clean thoroughly, rust stop primer and paint. For this to work, first de-grease thoroughly. Solvent on rough spots, strong detergent, pressure wash, repeat. Then get off loose rust and paint. I used a needle peen gun and picks in tight places. Then prime. I like either red Rustoleum or Eastwood rust encapsulator. Then paint with satin black Rustoleum.
For door cavities and other hidden spaces, clean as above, prime and apply waxy rustproof. I like the Eastwood stuff.
For the bed inside, get the rust cleaned off, prime with epoxy and paint works well... or bedliner of your choice after primer. I spent better than a day with stout angle grinder and wire wheel cleaning my bed insides. Dust mask needed.
For the bed underside, treat similar to the frame... except no needle peen gun. Strip to steel, prime, paint.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: superchuck]
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02/06/18 11:39 AM
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Sounds like you did not do a proper clean, strip, epoxy prime before applying your topcoat. Don't believe any of the gimmicky product hype out there, nothing replaces proper prep and product selection.
I would wash the area thoroughly, then clean with a degreaser. Then wire wheel, grind and sand blast as needed to get everything back down to bare metal. Then I would wash everything down with a phosphoric acid based rust converter prep wash, then rewash again with soap and water. Then epoxy prime everything (with a legit 2-part epoxy primer, no crap in a spray can), followed by topcoating with the topcoat of your choice. The underside I would do with undercoating, the heavier stuff you buy per gallon and apply with a schutz gun. Note, you have to apply the topcoat within the recoat window which for epoxy primer is generally 2-3 days depending on brand.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: superchuck]
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02/07/18 02:10 AM
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Since they like to shovel the salt out on the roads around here, I had this company treat my new truck. https://www.krownstl.com/
“You’ll own nothing” — And “you’ll be happy about it.” K. Schwab
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: FM3AAR]
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02/07/18 02:20 PM
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Since they like to shovel the salt out on the roads around here, I had this company treat my new truck. https://www.krownstl.com/ I have hear good things about that brand, originaly in canada, looks like there showing up in the US. I like the Idea that they dont spray black tar all over the car.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: superchuck]
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02/08/18 12:21 PM
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QuickDodge
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Buy a vehicle you do not value and drive it during the winter. Buy this vehicle cheap in the fall and sell it in the spring for (hopefully) a profit. This is the best method to preserve a vehicle in the rust belt.
If you got 7 years out of your truck, that is not to bad. I've seen rusted trucks that were less than 10 years old around Chicago!!
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: crlush]
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02/08/18 12:45 PM
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Since they like to shovel the salt out on the roads around here, I had this company treat my new truck. https://www.krownstl.com/ I have hear good things about that brand, originaly in canada, looks like there showing up in the US. I like the Idea that they dont spray black tar all over the car. Reasonably priced as well. $130 to $150 depending on the size of the vehicle. Looks like only one location is the US, in Saint Louis.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: 340Cuda]
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02/08/18 03:14 PM
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wingman
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Since they like to shovel the salt out on the roads around here, I had this company treat my new truck. https://www.krownstl.com/ I have hear good things about that brand, originaly in canada, looks like there showing up in the US. I like the Idea that they dont spray black tar all over the car. Reasonably priced as well. $130 to $150 depending on the size of the vehicle. Looks like only one location is the US, in Saint Louis. I used to swear by that stuff when we lived in North Dakota. Was pleasantly surprised when this one opened up in St. Louis. I get my daily drivers done now. They are actually a local snow removal/plow company that started using Krown on their own salt fleet. They liked it so much they opened a franchise to do cars in the off-season. I think they now have a contract now with MODOT.
1969 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 383 A4 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 440 FC7 (sold)
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: superchuck]
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02/10/18 04:04 PM
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I've used the POR15 paint and that stuff is good. I foam brushed it on frame after proper prepping (I'm down south but still want protection). Toxic smell even with mask though.
Speaking of up high, how do you all stop the roof drip rail rust? I keep my truck dry, but occasionally it's going to get wet, or damp. Does the infamous rust along the roof line start inside and rust out or is it from water resting on the drip rail? Is it enough just to dry the exterior whenever it gets wet?
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: larrymopar360]
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02/13/18 06:00 PM
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I've used the POR15 paint and that stuff is good. I foam brushed it on frame after proper prepping (I'm down south but still want protection). I bought their stuff, their prep products and followed their instructions. It peeled off after the first winter. Junk IMO.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: superchuck]
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02/13/18 09:15 PM
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larrymopar360
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I used just their black frame paint and really liked it. I don't know about the other products.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: preserving a truck body and frame questions
[Re: larrymopar360]
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02/14/18 05:48 PM
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Roof rust starts inside- usually as a consequence of a leak from the drivers side foot vent or the top corners of the windshield. That moisture evaporates and gets trapped between the inner panel, forward roof support and outer roof panels. See pics here, starting at post 19 http://ramchargercentral.com/mopar-trucks/1988-w-100/
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