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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: copchaser] #2445152
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Id buy one if I could get one to my door for that, hopefully the availability improves, I dont mind paying the money but 30-60 days is about the limit On what Id wait after ordering one. The old saying goes "Fast delivery" "Top Quality" "Low Price" - Pick any 2 cause you aint getting all three. That said I do expect at least 2 out of 3.

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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: copchaser] #2445192
02/02/18 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By copchaser
Total cost to my door a little over $7k. Paid for freight 2 times, lol.
Did you have to pay the additional $1K for KB specific heads studs on top of the $7K?

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2445274
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
Id buy one if I could get one to my door for that, hopefully the availability improves, I dont mind paying the money but 30-60 days is about the limit On what Id wait after ordering one. The old saying goes "Fast delivery" "Top Quality" "Low Price" - Pick any 2 cause you aint getting all three. That said I do expect at least 2 out of 3.

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Likely will cost about another 700 dollars for the block since time has gone by and increases in everything add costs. When my friends block comes to his door or he picks it up that will give a current time line and hopefully this time line will improve over the process or time.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2445350
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: copchaser] #2445356
02/02/18 08:25 PM
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[quote=copchaser]The block is a work of art, beautiful piece! Was shipped in a cardboard box, yes a cardboard box not a wood pallet or crate. After 4 years, a free T-shirt would of been nice. Wishful thinking, lol. It is very nice! [/quot

iagree I think a T-shirt would of been nice ,I was going to ask to post a pic. but sense there's no shirt then no pic. J/K Lol.it will be nice to see these new block once again, It might get peoples interest in building more Mopars apimp

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: racerx] #2445410
02/02/18 11:00 PM
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I don't get it. If you've got the money to spend on a KB, you've got to know the first 5.000 block you run into, will dust you. It doesn't sound like a good investment to me.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: copchaser] #2445419
02/02/18 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted By copchaser
The block is a work of art, beautiful piece! Was shipped in a cardboard box, yes a cardboard box not a wood pallet or crate. After 4 years, a free T-shirt would of been nice. Wishful thinking, lol. It is very nice!


Dart blocks come in a cardboard box as well!


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: LA360] #2445474
02/03/18 02:48 AM
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For the guys that don't have Facebook.


Keith Black Racing Engines added 6 new photos.
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Press Release - 2/1/2018 - Farmington Hills, Michigan.

Keith Black, Inc. (“KBRE”), the market leading-manufacturer of engine blocks for extreme horsepower applications has today announced an exciting new partnership with the highly regarded premium engine builder, Best Machine Racing Engines in Farmington Hills, Michigan.

Best Machine is a leading US engine builder focused on in-house R&D, and building competition and high output engines for winning teams in the Mopar community. They provide high-precision full-service in-house engine building, machining, assembly and dyno-testing services. With their “Do-it-right-the-first-time” attitude, Best Machine has found a recipe for keeping their racers Racing.

The agreement involves Best Machine now reselling KBRE’s premium Mopar engine blocks in HEMI® and WEDGE® Street, Race and Pro configurations. The partnership will extend KBRE’s reach into the Mopar performance aftermarket since resurrecting the business during 2017 while building on the new manufacturing capabilities added through it’s recent manufacturing partnership with RMC Engine in Saginaw, Michigan.

Commenting on the agreement, Darren Beale, Chief Executive Officer at KBRE said "We are delighted to be partnering with Best Machine for the resale of our premium engine block platforms. We’ve now calibrated the business to build on our new manufacturing capabilities and rebuild our market presence consistent with the strength, legacy, relevance and place in history of the Keith Black brand in American drag racing, and more generally in extreme horsepower applications. Best Machine adds to our enviable lineup of the very best US engine builders, representatives and advocates of our products and brand overall, so it’s a logical step for us to partner with Chuck and Pete".

Chuck Millen and Pete Costa, Best Machines’ two founders says “Everyone knows the market has been crying out for the reliable availability of a quality Mopar RB/B or HEMI engine block platform. We all know the Keith Black engine block well. It is a masterpiece in design, precision and strength, so we’re really excited and honored to be included in this small privileged fraternity of highly regarded engine builders. We know our customers will gain huge benefits from this. We also know just how large an effort and investment Darren and Tim have put into the business since they got involved last year, and believe the future is big and bright for KBRE, we like to support powerhouse products, brands and people”.

Best Machine is well known for it’s impeccable record in building record-setting and competition-winning engine combinations. Founded in 1999, Best Machine has close to 20 years of experience in the Mopar world, representing iconic names and teams such as Clinton Cranston (8 Time Monster Mopar KOS Champ), Big Time Bob Romano ( 2 time Monster Mopar KOS Champ), Dave Dudek (Dominating the 2017 FAST Series) and Mike Sanders (Awarded Fastest NNS Car in 2015 by NMCA). As well as many others racing in NHRA Top Sportsman, Super Stock, the Monster Mopar Series and Local Bracket events all around the world.

For inquiries contact:

Chuck Millen: chuck@bestmachineracing.com
Pete Costa: pete@bestmachineracing.com
Best Machine Racing Engines, Inc.
20780 Parker St
Farmington Hills, MI 48336
(248) 987-6038


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2446763
02/05/18 12:19 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms...when I ordered mine back in January 2006, I took delivery of it on March 29th 2006. They told me 6 months when I ordered it, but I got it in 3. That was when things were supposedly good at KB.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2446970
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I believe most, if not all of the Hemi Blocks in the link to Best Machine belong to one person.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: hemicar1971] #2447012
02/05/18 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By hemicar1971
I believe most, if not all of the Hemi Blocks in the link to Best Machine belong to one person.



I'm wondering if they aren't Best Machines blocks why would they drop off close to 30 blocks just to go to the machinist there in Michigan and not directly? shruggy

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: racerx] #2447015
02/05/18 07:27 PM
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Just wondering, what is the number on your new block?


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: Sammy] #2447022
02/05/18 07:32 PM
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I don't think that pic was at Best. I got the impression that Pete and Chuck went to RMC the shop that will be doing the machine work and that is where those blocks are.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: B1HEAD_USER] #2447030
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Originally Posted By B1HEAD_USER
I don't think that pic was at Best. I got the impression that Pete and Chuck went to RMC the shop that will be doing the machine work and that is where those blocks are.



yes, you are correct. looking at Best Machines facebook page, it does say KB Blocks at RMC

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: Sammy] #2447064
02/05/18 09:18 PM
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And they don't all belong to one person.
Several belong to me.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2447066
02/05/18 09:20 PM
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Why do they cast Mopar into the block?


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: 67autocross] #2447071
02/05/18 09:32 PM
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Because they used to be available through the MP network of dealers. Not anymore/
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2447080
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The number on my block is 3350 in the pictures I have been sent.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2447140
02/05/18 11:03 PM
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Pete and I spent the day at RMC last Thursday, that's where the pictures were taken. There is roughly 35 partially machined and 20 unmachined castings and WedgeFED's solid low deck which was in the CNC machine, sorry but I didn't get a picture of that. We we're there to test fit components and go over all the details with the RMC crew. I believe as of today RMC has all the parts and components to begin getting these blocks finished.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2447271
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I should go back and read but...... Are these Wedge and Hemi ?

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