Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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Sounds like too much to me too. Odds and ends add up quick tho.
I would think you could buy a drop in engine much cheaper,,,keep shopping
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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I got under $5,000 Total
How much do you want to spend on valvetrain ?
And I didn't have any engine dyno work done so
I assembled the long block and of course installed everything into car
Break in cam last month , but that's as far as I got
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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"Warmed up" rebuilt 383 with decent parts and factory heads should be do-able for under $2500 if you assemble. Factory heads and rods are a dime a dozen so good used cores should not weigh much on the cost.
Stroker where only the block and timing cover are factory, $5000-$6000+ depending on parts used and you assembling. As I have learned from my recent 383/451 build, assembling a bunch of aftermarket parts into a well put together motor can take many hours of work, so expect the labor bill to add up in a hurry if you have a competent engine builder put it together for you.
My 383/451 build with "cleaned up" 346/516 heads, offset ground 440 crank, and iron rockers could probably be accomplished for under $4K
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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Good machine work and assembly add up quick. 8K doesn't sound bad IF the shop is doing all the work.
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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My last 440, about 4 years ago, totalled close enough to $10K as to make no difference. It was quite stout and everything was done right. Zero problems. Stealth heads, Perf RPM intake, both ported, springs upgraded, beautiful valve job, solid Engle FT cam, Johnson lifters, Smith pushrods, perfected LY rods, Icon pistons, hand-fitted quality rings, Milodon pan & tray, alum water pump & housing, MSD, re-curved MP dist, forged OEM crank, ARP fasteners, Hedman headers. Already had the carb. Included break-in on a stand. Quality parts haven't become any cheaper, nor has talented labor.
Years go, I had a stock 383 rebuild done, think it was maybe $5K, and that motor had numerous problems; had the top end back off later, and eventually it had a short life. False economy.
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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The last engine I had done was a 68 steel crank 440 11-1 and it was awesome for 5k. Just wondering options. I'm beside myself on this. When did you have this built? If you want it cheap find a running 383 and buy it. If 10K is too much what do you feel is a reasonable price?
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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Re: Is it reall 8to 10K to build a mild 383 bb now a days?
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Thing is I just want a fairly stock 383. Its a 4 speed, factory exhaust manifolds, and I have to run the factory intake to clear the air grabber. I'm not looking for a speed demon. All I wanted was a 383-4 speed-3:55 posi car. original equipment. But that's not what you said you were building. You indicated a stroker kit $$$, and major machine work $. There are more economical ways. If just looking to get a freshened up engine, use stock components. Can the crank be cleaned up? Stock rods for 383 can be found economically here, ebay, etc. Id splurge for new custom pistons since you probably want to boost compression ratio some. I have also seen reworked (basic valve work) 452 heads for $750 a pair. Ebay aluminum intake close to stock dimensions (there are a couple out there) or reuse the iron. The $7800 without heads seams high to me too, but it does all add up. I would guess you can come in under $5k going with stock parts. Is the dyno session to tune it or just check for leaks? I used a k frame and made a run in stand to check for leaks.
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