Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours #2430701
01/07/18 09:00 PM
01/07/18 09:00 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,386
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula Offline OP
I Live Here
Dragula  Offline OP
I Live Here

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,386
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
What is the best setup for a BB mopar? And which side does the pump go on, the outlet or the inlet side.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dragula] #2430750
01/07/18 10:13 PM
01/07/18 10:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
Dartsport540 Offline
top fuel
Dartsport540  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
I run a Shogun remote water pump. Mounted on front frame rail. Pumps the water from radiator to engine, inlet side. It pumps the cooler water, from the radiator. BECOOL radiator, shroud and fan and recovery tank.

On a 90* to 100* day, my car will see a high temperature of 165* to 170*, when I get back to my pit after a run.

tn_IMG_0610.JPGtn_IMG_0609.JPGtn_IMG_0608.JPGtn_IMG_0607.JPG

548 cu. in., Bill Mitchell Aluminum Block, CRT 727 auto trans, Alston Chassis. 8.981et at 149.46 mph. 1.204et - 60 foot, So Far....
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dartsport540] #2430757
01/07/18 10:17 PM
01/07/18 10:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
Dartsport540 Offline
top fuel
Dartsport540  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
1 more

tn_IMG_0606.JPG

548 cu. in., Bill Mitchell Aluminum Block, CRT 727 auto trans, Alston Chassis. 8.981et at 149.46 mph. 1.204et - 60 foot, So Far....
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dartsport540] #2430761
01/07/18 10:29 PM
01/07/18 10:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 916
SE Washington
Forest Offline
super stock
Forest  Offline
super stock

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 916
SE Washington


Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dragula] #2430765
01/07/18 10:40 PM
01/07/18 10:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
I do not have the pump yet but this is what I have set up already. First I bought AndyF water manifolds, [ AR Engineering ] they bolt on where the stock water pump was on the front of AndyF front motor plate. I purchased an aluminum radiator and removed the upper return outlet and welded on 2 12an male fitting, the AndyF water manifolds are also 12an . Next is to purchase a Meziere dual outlet remote pump, not cheep. As my radiator has a 1 3/4" bottom outlet an adapter will be needed for the pump. My plan is to connect the pump with braided hose to the bottom of the water manifolds. The top outlets of the manifolds will be plumed to the top fitting of the radiator. This is my plan but it could also be plumbed the opposite for reverse cooling by just changing the hoses around on the manifolds. Meziere also makes a remote pump that mounts on the radiator, that eliminates the hose from the radiator to the pump, my application didn't have room for that type.


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dragula] #2430857
01/08/18 12:49 AM
01/08/18 12:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,837
tulsa ok
U
upnover Offline
top fuel
upnover  Offline
top fuel
U

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,837
tulsa ok
no pics but i run a stewart, it goes inline on the lower radiator hose

Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dragula] #2430984
01/08/18 11:59 AM
01/08/18 11:59 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,188
aZLiViN
J
J_BODY Offline
I Live Here
J_BODY  Offline
I Live Here
J

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,188
aZLiViN
I ran the ShoGun on my RB in my old Mirada.... loved that set up. Wish I would have gone that route (similar) on my small block Duster. Sure frees up a ton of room on the front of the engine.

Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dragula] #2431053
01/08/18 02:26 PM
01/08/18 02:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,363
Las Vegas
Al_Alguire Offline
I Live Here
Al_Alguire  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,363
Las Vegas
Mine is pretty similar to what Forest has


"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."

"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dragula] #2431239
01/08/18 08:39 PM
01/08/18 08:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,270
Morrow, OH
markz528 Offline
master
markz528  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,270
Morrow, OH
My stuff..........

Water Pump Project 2.jpgEngine 2007 09.JPGEngine 2007 08.JPG

67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dartsport540] #2431281
01/08/18 09:48 PM
01/08/18 09:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 287
PA
Harry's Taxi 2 Offline
enthusiast
Harry's Taxi 2  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 287
PA
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
1 more
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
I run a Shogun remote water pump. Mounted on front frame rail. Pumps the water from radiator to engine, inlet side. It pumps the cooler water, from the radiator. BECOOL radiator, shroud and fan and recovery tank.

On a 90* to 100* day, my car will see a high temperature of 165* to 170*, when I get back to my pit after a run.


Dartsport, what are the dimensions of your radiator....was it custom made?

Thank you


'86 Maple Grove KOS Mopar low qualifier......true street legal with no power adders.

NOS-used when losing since 1940.

Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Harry's Taxi 2] #2431739
01/09/18 06:51 PM
01/09/18 06:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
Dartsport540 Offline
top fuel
Dartsport540  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
Originally Posted By oscaracme
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
1 more
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
I run a Shogun remote water pump. Mounted on front frame rail. Pumps the water from radiator to engine, inlet side. It pumps the cooler water, from the radiator. BECOOL radiator, shroud and fan and recovery tank.

On a 90* to 100* day, my car will see a high temperature of 165* to 170*, when I get back to my pit after a run.


Dartsport, what are the dimensions of your radiator....was it custom made?

Thank you


Radiator was Custom built by BeCools fabricator, he was out of Canada. Becool had me contact him directly back in 2oo4 or 2005. My car is a Alston chassis, 2" x 3" box frame. All the radiators that I looked at back then were to wide. So I had a radiator custom built, with shroud, fan and over flow or expansion tank. It wasn't cheap, but it works!!

When I bought the car in 2003, it had a radiator out of a Dodge Omni, 4 cylinder. Temperature would hit 225* to 240* by the time I got onto return road, I had to shut car off and cool it down, before I could make it back to my pits.
I am going out to the shop, to measure radiator!!


548 cu. in., Bill Mitchell Aluminum Block, CRT 727 auto trans, Alston Chassis. 8.981et at 149.46 mph. 1.204et - 60 foot, So Far....
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dartsport540] #2431752
01/09/18 07:09 PM
01/09/18 07:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
Dartsport540 Offline
top fuel
Dartsport540  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,646
Ringtown, Pa.
Radiator measures: Width 23-1/4"
Height 16-1/2"
Tank thickness 3"


548 cu. in., Bill Mitchell Aluminum Block, CRT 727 auto trans, Alston Chassis. 8.981et at 149.46 mph. 1.204et - 60 foot, So Far....
Re: Dumb Q: Remote Water Pump....Lets see yours [Re: Dartsport540] #2431757
01/09/18 07:17 PM
01/09/18 07:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 287
PA
Harry's Taxi 2 Offline
enthusiast
Harry's Taxi 2  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 287
PA
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
Originally Posted By oscaracme
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
1 more
Originally Posted By Dartsport540
I run a Shogun remote water pump. Mounted on front frame rail. Pumps the water from radiator to engine, inlet side. It pumps the cooler water, from the radiator. BECOOL radiator, shroud and fan and recovery tank.

On a 90* to 100* day, my car will see a high temperature of 165* to 170*, when I get back to my pit after a run.


Dartsport, what are the dimensions of your radiator....was it custom made?

Thank you


Radiator was Custom built by BeCools fabricator, he was out of Canada. Becool had me contact him directly back in 2oo4 or 2005. My car is a Alston chassis, 2" x 3" box frame. All the radiators that I looked at back then were to wide. So I had a radiator custom built, with shroud, fan and over flow or expansion tank. It wasn't cheap, but it works!!

When I bought the car in 2003, it had a radiator out of a Dodge Omni, 4 cylinder. Temperature would hit 225* to 240* by the time I got onto return road, I had to shut car off and cool it down, before I could make it back to my pits.
I am going out to the shop, to measure radiator!!


I too have an Alston frame with the same problems it appears you had.

I had an original scirocco radiator that ran too hot (I also had a shogun setup then too) I replaced that with a twin-tube all alum. scirocco aftermarket one and that helped a little, but it's still too hard to keep cool.
I'm thinking more core rows are about my only practical option.....I've gone to a larger volume water pump and replaced that manifold with a setup similar to "forest's" pictures above. I did discover about a *20 temp difference L-R with the original shogun manifold.


'86 Maple Grove KOS Mopar low qualifier......true street legal with no power adders.

NOS-used when losing since 1940.







Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1