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#2447108 - 02/05/18 07:34 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Originally Posted By GRAYBO
Story is better than Fiction: Guy bought two cars from a dealership in Eau Claire, PA. 1 Hemi Bird, 1 440 6bbl Bird. Wrecked the Hemi in 1978ish. Sold the Car to the man I bought it from in 1978ish. Car has not been PA inspected since 1976. Guy I bought the car from drove it very little when a young man. Parked it in PA weather for 5 years then sent it to uncle in Fort Myers FLA. At this time nose cone is getting pretty bad. Trunk floor has some issues. Uncle was not a restoration expert and decided to spray bomb the car to "preserve" it. Whole car is brown rustolem primered. Found 4 rusted spray cans in trunk.


Okay, I was wrong! Imagine that! I just spoke to the original owner of the car. His father bought the car from a Plymouth dealer in Etna, PA called Krebs and King. The license plate frame on my car still has the name on it. He sold it to the man I bought it from due to health issues. I'm gonna do some research on KREBS and KING.


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#2447118 - 02/05/18 07:41 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Here are some pics of the car after I removed the Primer. A lot of original paint left. Think I'll drive it like this till I save up some loot for the restoration.


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#2447120 - 02/05/18 07:43 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Solid car under all that Primer.


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#2447124 - 02/05/18 07:48 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Did you sand it off? You know that rattle can paint/primer will usually come off with lacquer thinner, little to no sanding required

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#2447138 - 02/05/18 08:02 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
Did you sand it off? You know that rattle can paint/primer will usually come off with lacquer thinner, little to no sanding required


I tried that,,,,However...The Primer KING sanded the car, then primered it. It would not come off without sanding. All the bare metal you see was done by his sanding. I wet sanded most of it but that rattle can rustoleum was tough stuff!!!

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#2447170 - 02/05/18 08:52 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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more pics of when it came out of barn


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#2447173 - 02/05/18 08:54 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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more of underside


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#2447178 - 02/05/18 09:03 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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trunk


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Edited by GRAYBO (02/05/18 09:04 PM)

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#2447252 - 02/05/18 11:38 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?

Mike

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#2447257 - 02/05/18 11:44 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Its had more than primer over the original paint, at least in the door jambs, the door striker and latches were not painted yellow from the factory.

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#2447274 - 02/06/18 01:20 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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VERY COOL CAR!!! I used to drive my friends 440-6 4spd white BIRD....always loved the looks from onlookers or the people we passed!!

Anyways, my 2cents....i would have someone spray the car with non gloss clear to preserve it until the resto.....
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I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave

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#2447355 - 02/06/18 10:17 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?

Mike

Mike, I traded my clone for this car.

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#2447356 - 02/06/18 10:19 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
Its had more than primer over the original paint, at least in the door jambs, the door striker and latches were not painted yellow from the factory.


Yeah, the "restoration expert" found himself a can of yellow too. I do believe the extra primer and paint may have helped a little to prevent rust. Car needs a total reso anyhow so I might as well drive it a little rough and enjoy it.

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#2447405 - 02/06/18 12:23 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Originally Posted By GRAYBO
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?

Mike

Mike, I traded my clone for this car.



That's one for the Mopar enthusiast history books, trading a clone Superbird for the so called "real deal", good for you!

Mike

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#2447864 - 02/07/18 12:02 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: DAYCLONA]
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By GRAYBO
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Full blown resto candidate, no "survivor" quality hiding under the primer and dirt, but a nice candidate to start with!, you still have your clone bird?

Mike

Mike, I traded my clone for this car.



That's one for the Mopar enthusiast history books, trading a clone Superbird for the so called "real deal", good for you!

Mike


Yeah it was a perfect storm. Gentleman had some $ and health issues and loved my car. He knew he would never have the time or cash to restore his sooo.... The trade happened. The clone was no slouch. Here are some pics someone posted on the web while I was parked at summit in Ohio.

http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/10/14...il&msg=fail

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#2447867 - 02/07/18 12:06 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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OUCH. anyone know where I can find a replacement nose or a bottom piece for this one??????


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#2447869 - 02/07/18 12:08 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: big-block-dave]
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Originally Posted By big-block-dave
VERY COOL CAR!!! I used to drive my friends 440-6 4spd white BIRD....always loved the looks from onlookers or the people we passed!!

Anyways, my 2cents....i would have someone spray the car with non gloss clear to preserve it until the resto.....



Thanks. Already cleared! Done!

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#2447894 - 02/07/18 02:52 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Originally Posted By GRAYBO
Originally Posted By big-block-dave
VERY COOL CAR!!! I used to drive my friends 440-6 4spd white BIRD....always loved the looks from onlookers or the people we passed!!

Anyways, my 2cents....i would have someone spray the car with non gloss clear to preserve it until the resto.....



Thanks. Already cleared! Done!


Is it already cleared in the last 3 pics?
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I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave

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#2447969 - 02/07/18 09:46 AM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: big-block-dave]
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Yes in those last few pics it is clear coated over top the yellow and bare metal.

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#2448042 - 02/07/18 12:28 PM Re: Barn Find Bird [Re: GRAYBO]
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Originally Posted By GRAYBO
OUCH. anyone know where I can find a replacement nose or a bottom piece for this one??????




Your only choice is Gene Gregory for a steel SB nosecone or possibly individual panels

Mike

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