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#2425753 - 12/30/17 10:11 AM Re: Demon at track [Re: Al_Alguire]
340Cuda Offline
top fuel

Registered: 04/04/03
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Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
Pretty sure that is Ron Silva with his new Demon
That's cool, glad to see him get one.

I think he still lurks here occasionally, maybe he will fill us in.

Bill

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#2425823 - 12/30/17 11:47 AM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
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Registered: 01/20/03
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Loc: Akron, Ohio
Very impressive first day out, I'm sure Ron won't waste any time getting used to it and dialing it in. Car sounds sweet.
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#2425894 - 12/30/17 01:09 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
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His 1/8 mile time converted to 1/4 puts it at a 10.40 per Wallace. Not bad considering there’s a couple of features he hasn’t used yet

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#2425908 - 12/30/17 01:28 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: rickseeman]
Dave Hall Offline
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Registered: 01/21/08
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Loc: Cotati, CA
I thought the top tune required race gas? shruggy High octane unleaded? What would the addition of leaded fuel do to it?

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#2425909 - 12/30/17 01:30 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
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#2425982 - 12/30/17 03:30 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: Dave Hall]
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
I thought the top tune required race gas? shruggy High octane unleaded? What would the addition of leaded fuel do to it?


Yes, It requires 100 octane unleaded fuel. Sunoco 260 GT or equivalent. Leaded fuel would harm the catalytic converters. (Very expensive to fix.)
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#2428426 - 01/03/18 03:57 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: rickseeman]
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Actually saw the vid where they had the best run for the Demon of 9.65, the DA was like -1280 or so, so Mineshaft conditions, that most of us wont see unless your near sea level to begin with.

I think Mopar made a big mistake by putting out the very Best et, that most Owners wont come close to hitting. A lot will be disappointed I bet.

They should of listed a Et of like 10.40 so that most all owners could hit and even Better that ET, That would make for A lot of Happier owners IMO.

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#2428434 - 01/03/18 04:15 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: Sport440]
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Most of them will never hit the track but if you run into the owners at the car shows theirs will run 9.0's.
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#2428436 - 01/03/18 04:25 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: WO23Coronet]
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Registered: 01/20/03
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Loc: Tucson, Arizona
Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
His 1/8 mile time converted to 1/4 puts it at a 10.40 per Wallace. Not bad considering there’s a couple of features he hasn’t used yet


There was a story posted about Ron's ordeal. He was on the 91 octane tune. He added 100 lbs of ballast. Etc. It did go a 1.47 60 ft. Pretty stout. Wait till it's broke in.
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#2428475 - 01/03/18 06:03 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
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Originally Posted By toplescuda
He was saying on other forum. Was having trouble gettingbtrans brake to work so he foot braked it. Stock ecm..91 pump gas. No torque reserve wich lets it have all 14 pounds boost in just 6 feet. So yeah the car will deff be faster after he gets the bugs lined out


Saw the vid of using the trans brake, did seem a little tricky, The instructions were like Press the two paddles on the coloumn, press gas peddle to floor, release one paddle, release foot brake, then release 2nd paddle for launch, or something like that, I was like, W,t,h. laugh2


Edited by Sport440 (01/03/18 06:45 PM)

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#2428483 - 01/03/18 06:16 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: Sport440]
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Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By toplescuda
He was saying on other forum. Was having trouble gettingbtrans brake to work so he foot braked it. Stock ecm..91 pump gas. No torque reserve wich lets it have all 14 pounds boost in just 6 feet. So yeah the car will deff be faster after he gets the bugs lined out


Saw the vid of using the trans brake, did seem a little tricky, The instructions were like Press the two paddles on the coloumn, press gas peddle to floor, release one paddle, release foot break, then release 2nd paddle for launch, or something like that, I was like, W,t,h. laugh2


Hokey Pokey transbrake
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#2428533 - 01/03/18 07:19 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: pittsburghracer]
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Most of them will never hit the track but if you run into the owners at the car shows theirs will run 9.0's.


So True... I can say my car gets faster on the trailer after the race and a couple of beers. By the end of the night it's a damn top fuel car. LOL
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#2428974 - 01/04/18 02:07 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: GY3]
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Registered: 01/29/05
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Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By toplescuda
He was saying on other forum. Was having trouble gettingbtrans brake to work so he foot braked it. Stock ecm..91 pump gas. No torque reserve wich lets it have all 14 pounds boost in just 6 feet. So yeah the car will deff be faster after he gets the bugs lined out


Saw the vid of using the trans brake, did seem a little tricky, The instructions were like Press the two paddles on the coloumn, press gas peddle to floor, release one paddle, release foot break, then release 2nd paddle for launch, or something like that, I was like, W,t,h. laugh2


Hokey Pokey transbrake


I imagine it was intentionally slightly complex to prevent acidental activation.
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#2429206 - 01/04/18 07:32 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
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Thats probably true, its tough to idiot proof something these days because they keep building better idiots!
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#2429226 - 01/04/18 08:08 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: Sport440]
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Originally Posted By Sport440


Saw the vid of using the trans brake, did seem a little tricky, The instructions were like Press the two paddles on the coloumn, press gas peddle to floor, release one paddle, release foot brake, then release 2nd paddle for launch, or something like that, I was like, W,t,h. laugh2


The only difference I see from 'normal' transbrake use is pushing two buttons to activate. This was likely done so no additional hardware is needed, just some programming.
twocents

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#2429295 - 01/04/18 10:56 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: Sport440]
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Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 8600
Loc: poplar bluff mo.
Originally Posted By Sport440
Actually saw the vid where they had the best run for the Demon of 9.65, the DA was like -1280 or so, so Mineshaft conditions, that most of us wont see unless your near sea level to begin with.

I think Mopar made a big mistake by putting out the very Best et, that most Owners wont come close to hitting. A lot will be disappointed I bet.

They should of listed a Et of like 10.40 so that most all owners could hit and even Better that ET, That would make for A lot of Happier owners IMO.

No proof. But claim. Is. The 9.65 wasn't the best pass. Just the best when doing the record thing
The fastest pass was a 9.30 something at 150 mph
When Pritchett made the 9.65 pass the very next pass one of the high ups..at str.. made a 9.66 pass....so the 9.65 pass wasn't a fluke pass that no else can also do
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#2429299 - 01/04/18 11:01 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
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Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 8600
Loc: poplar bluff mo.
The trans brake on this thing is not like a trans brake in our hot rods. Where we can hit the brake and slam gas to the floor...let off button and go
This has to be between certain rpm. That you have to maintain with the gas pedal. If to much. Or to little it de activates
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#2429310 - 01/04/18 11:44 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
Dave Hall Offline
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Registered: 01/21/08
Posts: 1958
Loc: Cotati, CA
Damn, that kinda sucks. I wonder how easy it would be to modify? work

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#2429318 - 01/05/18 12:04 AM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
toplescuda Offline
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Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 8600
Loc: poplar bluff mo.
Thats the reason the media guys times all differ from each other. And possible the art guys. As leaving at a lower rpm so not kick the trans brake function out.
Get good enuff where ya can hold that foot steady at close to higher rpm limit. Will have a good time
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#2430230 - 01/06/18 08:10 PM Re: Demon at track [Re: toplescuda]
Sport440 Offline
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Originally Posted By toplescuda
[quote=Sport


No proof. But claim. Is. The 9.65 wasn't the best pass. Just the best when doing the record thing
The fastest pass was a 9.30 something at 150 mph

When Pritchett made the 9.65 pass the very next pass one of the high ups..at str.. made a 9.66 pass....so the 9.65 pass wasn't a fluke pass that no else can also do


Never saw a vid/comment or hint of a 9.30 pass, Anywhere. You stated No Proof, But Claim.

Personally, don't believe it ever happened. It took every trick in the book they could muster to get a 9.65. I'm sure that was backed up with a 9.66 right after as the track and DA conditions were the same.


My Point is, These cars are advertised as Turn Key, if everybody can put the drag strip package on from out of the trunk and run a Easy 9, or even a 9.65.

Not going to Happen, most will run 10.20,s to 10.40,s Some, will and may get into the 9,s as delivered from the factory.

It is one heck of a car, but its not going to run as the Marketing guys would have you think Turn Key. For the most part, I see disappointment over the web as to how these cars that Have been run down the track are performing, not Nearly up to par as they Thought they would...

Granted, Modified from stock, Even the Hellcats are running into the 8,s, the Demon will as well.


But I will back up, 10,20s or better from a Turn key Factory car, Waaay Impressive. up up

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