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#2400810 - 11/08/17 10:05 PM E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ???
CompSyn Offline
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I was told this 383 HP block came from a 69 Road Runner. Wondering if it is a waranty block as there is an odd number in place of the VIN????

E383 HP ->



9F140705 found at VIN location ->



Number pad on driver side of block has a 9 ->




Casting number ->

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#2400815 - 11/08/17 10:22 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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VIN looks good to me, just not from a RR.

1969 E383HP installed in a car built at Newark DE.

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#2400858 - 11/09/17 12:31 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: B5 Bee]
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NO 383HP '69 C-bodies spank

it is/was a Y39 "99" paint code Road Runner RM2?H9E140705 built February '69 in LA
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#2400864 - 11/09/17 12:51 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: 6bblgt]
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
NO 383HP '69 C-bodies spank

it is/was a Y39 "99" paint code Road Runner RM2?H9E140705 built February '69 in LA


So was it normal for LA to omit the first six characters of the VIN? My St. Louis built Road Runner has the complete VIN on the block.
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#2400870 - 11/09/17 01:15 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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The only 1969 models to get full VINs were cars built from Aug 68 to aprox Dec 68 / Jan 69 . In other words Full VINs on engines/trans was only done for the first half of the production year . The only time full Vins ever appeared in the 68-74 time frame .

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#2400872 - 11/09/17 01:30 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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Originally Posted By CompSyn
Originally Posted By 6bblgt
NO 383HP '69 C-bodies spank

it is/was a Y39 "99" paint code Road Runner RM2?H9E140705 built February '69 in LA


So was it normal for LA to omit the first six characters of the VIN? My St. Louis built Road Runner has the complete VIN on the block.


Yes, but it is really just the first five characters. For example, for my 70 Cuda the block, trans, and body stamps are all missing the BS23N portion of the VIN.

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#2400887 - 11/09/17 06:31 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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I see 9F not 9E?

Can you get a more straight on photo?

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#2400891 - 11/09/17 07:18 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: BigMoneyLewis]
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Originally Posted By BigMoneyLewis
The only 1969 models to get full VINs were cars built from Aug 68 to aprox Dec 68 / Jan 69 . In other words Full VINs on engines/trans was only done for the first half of the production year . The only time full Vins ever appeared in the 68-74 time frame .

Greg


This car looks like it is a low vin number that I think would have been built before Dec? twocents

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#2400948 - 11/09/17 09:54 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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I'll have to look again but I believe the date code on the side of the block is 11 * 16 * 68
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#2400958 - 11/09/17 10:15 AM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: Alaskan_TA]
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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
I see 9F not 9E?

Can you get a more straight on photo?


Pic is tagged as 9F, possible mis-stamp?

"9F140705 found at VIN location ->"

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#2401036 - 11/09/17 01:26 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: B5 Bee]
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LA plant is known to have very poorly stamped VINs
9F140705 from Newark would've been October '68 & a full VIN stamp engine
Newark built C-bodies & there are NO 383HP C-bodies

9E140705 was a 219 (Wed. 2/19/69) scheduled RR & the "E 383HP" engine assembly date (Mon. 2/3/69) fits well for this car
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#2401042 - 11/09/17 01:39 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: 6bblgt]
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More pics as requested ->




C-Body bosses drilled ->


Casting date: 11/16/68 ->
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#2401044 - 11/09/17 01:45 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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Possible clue? From the same person I purchased this block from I also bought this 69 Road Runner hood in Bahama Yellow. Perhaps from the same car? ->
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#2401045 - 11/09/17 01:48 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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by 1969 the only cars that used the bosses on the driver's side front of a 383 block were A-bodies (many '68-'69 non-A-body blocks have these, drilled & tapped)
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#2401046 - 11/09/17 01:49 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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Originally Posted By CompSyn
Possible clue? From the same person I purchased this block from I also bought this 69 Road Runner hood in Bahama Yellow. Perhaps from the same car? ->


quite probable!
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#2401055 - 11/09/17 02:09 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: 6bblgt]
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
Originally Posted By CompSyn
Possible clue? From the same person I purchased this block from I also bought this 69 Road Runner hood in Bahama Yellow. Perhaps from the same car? ->


quite probable!


Dan, earlier in the thread, before the hood was mentioned, you deduced from a partial VIN the car "is/was a Y39 "99" paint code"

I'm curious what your process was for coming to this conclusion?

Thanks!
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#2401060 - 11/09/17 02:25 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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the 2,000+ special order paint (Bahama yellow, rallye green, Omaha orange, corporate blue) '69 Road Runners from LA were assigned VINs in batches

RM23H9E140704 is a restored "Omaha orange" Road Runner
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#2401110 - 11/09/17 04:25 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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Nice work Dan!!
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#2401118 - 11/09/17 04:55 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: 6bblgt]
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
the 2,000+ special order paint (Bahama yellow, rallye green, Omaha orange, corporate blue) '69 Road Runners from LA were assigned VINs in batches

RM23H9E140704 is a restored "Omaha orange" Road Runner


Wow! That is amazing. Thanks for weighing in on this.
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#2401143 - 11/09/17 06:32 PM Re: E383 HP Block - w/o VIN ??? [Re: CompSyn]
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Looks to be a badly stamped "E" to me, the bottom of the "F" look like if starts to bend to the right. scope
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