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No oil pressure after changing rockers #2395130
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Having a difficult time getting oil pressure on my engineI. I changd the rocker arms and pushrods and try to prime the engine. Are use the long Allan key tool on a drill in reverse while I turned over the engine. At about 290 degrees had some oil coming out of the drivers side rocker shaft (I couldn’t see any coming out of the rockers so I remove the Allen key at the end of the shaft) and then I turned it over more and had lots of oil coming out of the passenger side rocker shaft. Opened the dhafyvthere too

Reassembled everything started the engine still had no oil pressure

I’ve done this a couple times and no pressure. I am not sure what I’m doing wrong


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395137
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Do you have no oil pressure or no oil to the rockers? The rocker shaft feeds are timed on the #4 cam bearing and a cross drill hole in the camshaft journal.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395185
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turn the dampener to 90 deg (1/4 turn) before TDC #1 compression (& there should be (3) partial slits in addition to the full TDC slit to make that easy) & preoil & the pass head should be oiling then turn the dampener to 20 deg ATDC #6 compression (use the timing tab as a ruler) & preoil & the drivers head should be oiling. As you know, CW with the drill. EDIT I plumb a cheap psi gauge into the top rear block NPT port to see how much pressure I actually have.

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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395294
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If there is no pressure on the gauge while you're running the priming tool, this is not likely related to the rockers.

Figure out why there is no pressure before starting the motor again.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395508
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I had originally primed the engine with the drill in forward FYI

I changed the oil and filter

I took off the oil pump to check if the pressure release was stuck, but it slid back and forth easily

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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395510
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There isnt any pressure with the drill I will switch to a mechanical gauge to double check


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395547
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You will feel the pressure in a hand drill when you get pressure. If none, it will feel like the drill is free-wheeling. When you get pressure, it will torque the drill in your hand. You can tell without a gauge when you have pressure and when you don't. Do you have the oil holes in the rocker shaft facing the correct direction?

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HS rocker shafts have oil holes top and bottom.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395566
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I was concerned about that as well. Here is what they look like but it doesnt look like I can screw that up.

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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395596
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you had good oil pressure before you changed the rockers. I can't imagine the rockers doing it. You look to see all the rockers are going up and down. I have seen a lifter jump out give you 0 oil pressure.

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Originally Posted By plycuda
you had good oil pressure before you changed the rockers. I can't imagine the rockers doing it. You look to see all the rockers are going up and down. I have seen a lifter jump out give you 0 oil pressure.


Yes Good oil pressure before.
Good question as I pulled a roller lifter to look when I thought I had another issue
I adjusted all the valves and all moved up and down


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395601
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You are spinning the oil pump priming tool counter clockwise with the drill motor, correct?
Sometimes they, different motors, will take a lot longer to prime than others.
You had oil coming out of the passenger shaft so you had oil pressure then up
What changed from then to now? work

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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395602
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You ran the drill backwards and emptied the pick up tube is what I think happened.

If you're using the same filter you had on it when you ran the drill backwards, try a different one.
Do a semi-fill of the new filter before installing it...... Try repriming....... Counter clockwise rotation.

Also, you pulled the pump off.
If the pump to block gasket is damaged around the pick up hole it'll just suck air instead of oil.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2395841
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Please let us know what the solution to your problem is...as I am thinking about roller rockers and pushrods too!

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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2396624
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We have seen a drop in oil pressure after installing H/S and other rollerized rockers since they tend to bleed more oil off quicker.Check the shaft saddle in the head and make sure that it's seated and not bleeding off there.Them try shims on ether side of each rocker to contain the oil in the rockers.A good check is to remove the rockers and run the drill and see the oil come out of the head stand this is the best way to determine if the rockers are the issue.If you don't have flow and pressure look elsewhere.Make sure the undercut shaft hold down bolts are in the correct hole.How much oil pressure did you have to begin with before the swap?

Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2396685
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It had HS rockers on it before, it's only a ratio change.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: fast68plymouth] #2396688
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Agreed, you will feel the drill torque when it catches/builds pressure & you gotta go CW. I add the gauge cuz I want to know that I have enough psi.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: RapidRobert] #2396693
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Originally Posted By RapidRobert
Agreed, you will feel the drill torque when it catches/builds pressure & you gotta go CW. I add the gauge cuz I want to know that I have enough psi.


CW is for small blocks. CCW for big blocks.


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Oh I thought this was a SB the OP was dealing with. If not then yes my bad.


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Re: No oil pressure after changing rockers [Re: Kam*Kuda] #2396720
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spin drill counter clock wise

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