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Shoping for race shifter #2392342
10/24/17 02:19 PM
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looking at shifters for my Demon build. Think I have it narrowed down to the PPP or the B&M stealth pro ratchet. There is a 3rd the new M&M transmissions one that's very nice but just cant justify the price on that one. I don't care for the Quarter Stick style where you have to pull trigger on the 2/3 shift. Also don't want the old design Winters/turbo action gated style. This will be a manual rev valve body as I like 1st next to N. It will also be mounted on stalk that comes up from under front of bench seat. I was used to pulling to shift on my winters in the roadrunner but may go with push to shift if I decide on the PPP. Any suggestions on something I may have missed or input if you run any of these is welcome.

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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392361
10/24/17 02:56 PM
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I have a PPP KS2 push shift new in the box. I ordered it off their website for rear exit cable from the shifter and rear entry on the trans. (I have very little room for a front entry cable on the trans) Got it and it is front entry on the trans. I called PPP and was told the push shift cannot have a rear entry cable. Their website was not very clear about that at the time. Other than that, it's a beautiful shifter.


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: slantzilla] #2392386
10/24/17 03:37 PM
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I also have the PPP KS2 push shift new in the box for my Challenger.

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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392392
10/24/17 03:52 PM
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Minnesota, USA
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I switched from a gated shifter to a Stealth Pro Ratchet this year and love it. I mounted mine up high like yours would be and its the most comfortable shifter I've ever had. And - it looks great! Oh - awesome build you have going there! Can't wait to see the finished product.

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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392475
10/24/17 06:41 PM
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I run the standard pro ratchet , very happy . I raised it using box tube . Not sure a PPP will fit with bench seat ?

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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392488
10/24/17 07:16 PM
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By far my favorite is the quarter stick. I like you have to pull the trigger to go into third.
Have a Turbo action now, don't like it near as much.
To me the quarter stick is bulletproof.


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392491
10/24/17 07:23 PM
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PPP FTW!


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392498
10/24/17 07:33 PM
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I like the ppp shifters never have to worry about missing a shift. do not like ratchet type. with six race cars in the family and only one with ppp push type I didn't like it so I took it apart and made it a pull. Love it now. PPP by far is one of the best quality.


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392516
10/24/17 08:16 PM
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Pro Ratchet FTW.

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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392556
10/24/17 09:24 PM
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I have 2 PPP shifters both push.

One is a ks2 rear exit on the shifter, front connection to the trans.

The other is a KS1 front exit on the shfter, rear on the trans.

I like this set up, but it uses a little longer cable.



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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Just-a-dart] #2392565
10/24/17 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Just-a-dart
I have 2 PPP shifters both push.

One is a ks2 rear exit on the shifter, front connection to the trans.

The other is a KS1 front exit on the shfter, rear on the trans.

I like this set up, but it uses a little longer cable.



Have a pic of either shifter?
and
The KS2 is rear cable exit and front connection?
There a pic of that ?

Thanks

Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: SILVER67] #2392590
10/24/17 10:14 PM
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Addison,IL
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B&M Pro Ratchet. No worrying about going 1st to 3rd with this shifter, because you can't.

Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392596
10/24/17 10:19 PM
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scored a PPP clean N used and it will be the last shifter I need (I've had three). Mines a rear exit at shifter, rear entry at trans pull to shift w/t air. If photobucket didn't change I'd post up plenty of picts.

Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392598
10/24/17 10:22 PM
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I have the Kwik shift 2 and it’s a great shifter, very clean shifts, very fast........I personally have not ever used or seen a better shifter myself.

Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: '68cuda416] #2392605
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I did have to chop up and modify/weld their shift cable bracket they send because no matter what I tried it would hit the body, I think J Body also made a new bracket for his too, but after crossing that hurdle all is great.

Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #2392647
10/24/17 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By OUTLAWSSAA
B&M Pro Ratchet. No worrying about going 1st to 3rd with this shifter, because you can't.


I did that with my cheetah shifter so many times could scream, like said, not this one...love my pro ratchet.


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392657
10/24/17 11:49 PM
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For a 3 speed...PPP or the Quarter Stick or B&M Pro Stick style for a more economical choice. I actually prefer the B&M because it comes with a better cable and hardware.

I don't know how you could go from 1st to 3rd with a Quarter Stick. It's intuitive, easy to use, compact, hard to overshift and you can easily go from high to park (or vice versa) without having to jerk on the thing a half dozen times. Yes I hate a ratchet shifter. How do you know what position you are in without counting or starting over from one end or the other? Been awhile since I've used one, but unless something has changed, not for me.


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: CMcAllister] #2392678
10/25/17 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
For a 3 speed...PPP or the Quarter Stick or B&M Pro Stick style for a more economical choice. I actually prefer the B&M because it comes with a better cable and hardware.

I don't know how you could go from 1st to 3rd with a Quarter Stick. It's intuitive, easy to use, compact, hard to overshift and you can easily go from high to park (or vice versa) without having to jerk on the thing a half dozen times. Yes I hate a ratchet shifter. How do you know what position you are in without counting or starting over from one end or the other? Been awhile since I've used one, but unless something has changed, not for me.


I agree with the quarterstick regards going first to third. I always would put my hand on top of the ball and just bop the shifter back for second. Then squeeze the trigger and pull it in third. Pretty impossible to go first to third unless you put your hand on the trigger, and why would you do that?
Even wirh a wheelstanding 9 sec car i never had any issues with that shifter. Works great.


69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Quickrunner] #2392681
10/25/17 12:33 AM
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PPP accept no substitute.


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Re: Shoping for race shifter [Re: Saskabusa] #2392871
10/25/17 01:08 PM
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I was sold on the PPP when I called & talked with them & said they have been manufacturing them since 1989 with not one defective or returned shifter ever.


1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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