Shoping for race shifter
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10/24/17 02:19 PM
10/24/17 02:19 PM
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Posts: 625 Indianapolis In. usa
Quickrunner
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looking at shifters for my Demon build. Think I have it narrowed down to the PPP or the B&M stealth pro ratchet. There is a 3rd the new M&M transmissions one that's very nice but just cant justify the price on that one. I don't care for the Quarter Stick style where you have to pull trigger on the 2/3 shift. Also don't want the old design Winters/turbo action gated style. This will be a manual rev valve body as I like 1st next to N. It will also be mounted on stalk that comes up from under front of bench seat. I was used to pulling to shift on my winters in the roadrunner but may go with push to shift if I decide on the PPP. Any suggestions on something I may have missed or input if you run any of these is welcome.
05 Ram 1500 Daytona package 71 Demon Gen3 hemi drag radial project
Missin' my 9 second 70 runner!
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Quickrunner]
#2392361
10/24/17 02:56 PM
10/24/17 02:56 PM
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Posts: 20,177 Park Forest, IL
slantzilla
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I have a PPP KS2 push shift new in the box. I ordered it off their website for rear exit cable from the shifter and rear entry on the trans. (I have very little room for a front entry cable on the trans) Got it and it is front entry on the trans. I called PPP and was told the push shift cannot have a rear entry cable. Their website was not very clear about that at the time. Other than that, it's a beautiful shifter.
"Everybody funny, now you funny too."
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: slantzilla]
#2392386
10/24/17 03:37 PM
10/24/17 03:37 PM
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I also have the PPP KS2 push shift new in the box for my Challenger.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Quickrunner]
#2392475
10/24/17 06:41 PM
10/24/17 06:41 PM
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tex013
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I run the standard pro ratchet , very happy . I raised it using box tube . Not sure a PPP will fit with bench seat ?
Tex
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Quickrunner]
#2392488
10/24/17 07:16 PM
10/24/17 07:16 PM
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Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan
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By far my favorite is the quarter stick. I like you have to pull the trigger to go into third. Have a Turbo action now, don't like it near as much. To me the quarter stick is bulletproof.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Quickrunner]
#2392498
10/24/17 07:33 PM
10/24/17 07:33 PM
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JAKE68
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I like the ppp shifters never have to worry about missing a shift. do not like ratchet type. with six race cars in the family and only one with ppp push type I didn't like it so I took it apart and made it a pull. Love it now. PPP by far is one of the best quality.
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Quickrunner]
#2392556
10/24/17 09:24 PM
10/24/17 09:24 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
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Just-a-dart
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I have 2 PPP shifters both push.
One is a ks2 rear exit on the shifter, front connection to the trans.
The other is a KS1 front exit on the shfter, rear on the trans.
I like this set up, but it uses a little longer cable.
"Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Just-a-dart]
#2392565
10/24/17 09:36 PM
10/24/17 09:36 PM
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SILVER67
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I have 2 PPP shifters both push.
One is a ks2 rear exit on the shifter, front connection to the trans.
The other is a KS1 front exit on the shfter, rear on the trans.
I like this set up, but it uses a little longer cable.
Have a pic of either shifter? and The KS2 is rear cable exit and front connection? There a pic of that ? Thanks
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: OUTLAWSSAA]
#2392647
10/24/17 11:33 PM
10/24/17 11:33 PM
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Adobedude
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B&M Pro Ratchet. No worrying about going 1st to 3rd with this shifter, because you can't. I did that with my cheetah shifter so many times could scream, like said, not this one...love my pro ratchet.
2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Quickrunner]
#2392657
10/24/17 11:49 PM
10/24/17 11:49 PM
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CMcAllister
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For a 3 speed...PPP or the Quarter Stick or B&M Pro Stick style for a more economical choice. I actually prefer the B&M because it comes with a better cable and hardware.
I don't know how you could go from 1st to 3rd with a Quarter Stick. It's intuitive, easy to use, compact, hard to overshift and you can easily go from high to park (or vice versa) without having to jerk on the thing a half dozen times. Yes I hate a ratchet shifter. How do you know what position you are in without counting or starting over from one end or the other? Been awhile since I've used one, but unless something has changed, not for me.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: CMcAllister]
#2392678
10/25/17 12:25 AM
10/25/17 12:25 AM
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For a 3 speed...PPP or the Quarter Stick or B&M Pro Stick style for a more economical choice. I actually prefer the B&M because it comes with a better cable and hardware.
I don't know how you could go from 1st to 3rd with a Quarter Stick. It's intuitive, easy to use, compact, hard to overshift and you can easily go from high to park (or vice versa) without having to jerk on the thing a half dozen times. Yes I hate a ratchet shifter. How do you know what position you are in without counting or starting over from one end or the other? Been awhile since I've used one, but unless something has changed, not for me. I agree with the quarterstick regards going first to third. I always would put my hand on top of the ball and just bop the shifter back for second. Then squeeze the trigger and pull it in third. Pretty impossible to go first to third unless you put your hand on the trigger, and why would you do that? Even wirh a wheelstanding 9 sec car i never had any issues with that shifter. Works great.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Shoping for race shifter
[Re: Saskabusa]
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10/25/17 01:08 PM
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I was sold on the PPP when I called & talked with them & said they have been manufacturing them since 1989 with not one defective or returned shifter ever.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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