Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
[Re: Thumperdart]
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I ran the foam in mine even with E-85.. had in there for about 10 years.. a cheap cell will have cheap foam in it and will break down after time.. if you dont run the foam I would at least look into some baffles to slow or stop the slosh.. and the slosh can be noisey.. I did a lot of noise work back at Chrysler to make tanks quiet
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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I've been researching this topic also and there are so many varying opinions about the foam. Some say no problem others say its the worst thing to do, maybe as said above it depends on the quality of the cell/foam. My plan it to go no foam or remove the foam from the cell and run an efi in-tank pump to a carb using a bypass regulator. I'm also planning on using this deal from tanksinc to provide a baffle system for hard acceleration: http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/p...=prod/prd84.htmAnybody else doing this? I'd love some feedback if this is a good/bad idea. Not to hijack but thought the OP might be interested also. thanks, Steve
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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Jim, I bought mine new in 1975, has foam in it. Never broke down, still using it. Just get one. It will live longer than we do.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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Didn't think about the noise from sloshing and thanks for the link to tanksinc, some good info there. Sounds like foam with a good filter is the way to go. oh and it will be a new cell so no issues there. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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I picked up a 64 dart I'm going to be setting up for some bracket racing. Since I have to replace the gas tank I figured I just go to a fuel cell, about the same price and already has a sump. Do I go with a cell with or without foam? please give me your guy's input, advantages/disadvantages.
I know the foam is supose to help with sloshing but have heard that it deterioates over time causing clogs and will need to be replace.
This is basiclly a strip car with a bit of steet use.
Thanks, Gary Per Magnafuel, no foam.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
[Re: Mr340]
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Had a cell w/ foam in the Camaro (5 sec 1/8 mile, SBC N/A, drag only), but it started breaking down after a couple years. Removed it at that time and been that way ever since w/ no trouble.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
[Re: Mr340]
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I have a 20gal aluminum fuel cell with the foam and now thinking about it, it would only hold about what? 5gals of fuel.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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You might want to read up on the foam. Here's a fuel cell foam supplier who supplies to the US military. Their foam is 98% void, meaning you lose 2% of the volume to the foam. Anyway this stuff looks like its cutting edge material. http://www.ksrfoam.com/Fuel_Cell_Foam_Kits.phpR.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
[Re: Mr340]
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Thanks for the link, this cured my curiosity.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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Part of the problem with foam is you have no way of knowing how much fuel you have in the tank. No fuel gauge ( unless you go outside the tank with a clear tube ) and you can't visibly see the fuel level. So you use a stick to check the fuel level. Stick goes right in to the foam. Not good! You break the foam up just a little bit, and your dead meat.
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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10 years no problem with a summit brand cel, VP C-12, and E85. I think its really hit and miss from what I have seen
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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Part of the problem with foam is you have no way of knowing how much fuel you have in the tank. No fuel gauge ( unless you go outside the tank with a clear tube ) and you can't visibly see the fuel level. So you use a stick to check the fuel level. Stick goes right in to the foam. Not good! You break the foam up just a little bit, and your dead meat. Looking at the offerings on Summit's page they do show cells with foam and a sending unit. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/jzp-251-116-01/overview/
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Re: Fuel Cell, foam or no foam?
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Part of the problem with foam is you have no way of knowing how much fuel you have in the tank. No fuel gauge ( unless you go outside the tank with a clear tube ) and you can't visibly see the fuel level. So you use a stick to check the fuel level. Stick goes right in to the foam. Not good! You break the foam up just a little bit, and your dead meat. Looking at the offerings on Summit's page they do show cells with foam and a sending unit. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/jzp-251-116-01/overview/ I stand rejected.
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