Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/03/17 01:37 AM
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It's going to take a lot of looking, plus with the Canadian peso you will pay dearly if can find one.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/03/17 04:53 AM
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Yeah a lot of us feel that pain Funny but a mate is working up to buy a new block/short motor. A 409W chev aluminium block . Huge demand for those 409s i guess Dang canadian peso - we have aussie peso's . Don't get me started on freight
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/03/17 02:43 PM
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Tony is making it tough to try to do anything serious and remain loyal at the same time. Aftermarket is not picking up the slack.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/03/17 09:29 PM
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. You can call Chicago Connection for an iron block. They are a distributor of the block MM was selling. I ordered a compact graphite iron 4.500 bore wedge block from Billy Mitchells (SP?) company when they owned or where in partners with World Products, I waited a long time before they cancelled making them due to not having enough orders. I had placed a order with Dave Koffel for a Koleno high nickel cast grey iron block and ended up cancelling it when he called to say it was ready to ship, stupid me One in the hand is way better than one on order I placed another order with Dave later two years later and got it several years later Dave had said that casting iron Mopar race blocks was a black art according to what he had seen and heard while working at Chrysler and seen later on both the Koleno and World iron blocks I have talk to the guys at Chicago Connection for another iron block but I think I will wait until they have several bunches machined and in use before stepping forward on them
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/04/17 03:00 AM
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I have a (The Block) that I bought from Muscle Motors. Although MM was involved in testing the blocks, they were not making them. The sourcing of these blocks has not changed. They are available from several vendors.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/04/17 03:18 AM
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Have you used it yet? If so how was it and how much extra machine work was needed to make it useable for your deal? Last thing is it a RB or B wedge or a Hemi block and what size bore was it to start with? I'm still in the market for another good cast iron, not aluminum, race block Thanks in advance for your help on this
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/04/17 05:35 PM
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Have you used it yet? If so how was it and how much extra machine work was needed to make it useable for your deal? Last thing is it a RB or B wedge or a Hemi block and what size bore was it to start with? I'm still in the market for another good cast iron, not aluminum, race block Thanks in advance for your help on this Its a RB 505. I went 0.030 over as it will be a street engine. Can't comment on the machining as I bought it as an assembled shortblock. I hope to get the motor fully assembled and on the dyno by the end of the year or very early next year.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/04/17 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the help I'm going to assume that it is bored to 4.350 with a 4.250 stroke, is that correct?
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/05/17 12:55 AM
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I have a (The Block) that I bought from Muscle Motors. Although MM was involved in testing the blocks, they were not making them. The sourcing of these blocks has not changed. They are available from several vendors. Which vendors? Thanks.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/05/17 01:53 PM
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Thanks for the help I'm going to assume that it is bored to 4.350 with a 4.250 stroke, is that correct? I didn't put it in the post cause I didn't want to guess but quite sure that is correct. It is a 4.25 stroke - stock bore 0.030 over.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/05/17 01:54 PM
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I have a (The Block) that I bought from Muscle Motors. Although MM was involved in testing the blocks, they were not making them. The sourcing of these blocks has not changed. They are available from several vendors. Which vendors? Thanks. Don't quite remember but if you search the subject here on Moparts they have been listed. I do believe Chicago Connection was one.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/05/17 02:03 PM
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Just curious, as to why bother with a iron block when aluminum blocks are available as a option? I can see if you are running a class that requires iron.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/05/17 02:57 PM
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You could always HardBlock the aluminum block to keep it from moving around. I know people that have done it.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/05/17 06:48 PM
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I have to laugh out loud when I hear about bad ring seal on aluminum blocks
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/06/17 03:19 PM
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Laugh all you want, I have heard the same results from many heads up west coast racer, power adders included 80 to 130 HP loss(700 + and above HP) on engine combination with all the exact same parts being transferred from a iron block to a aluminum block with or without fill Bottom line now is we have no good source of both types of RB or B block today, aluminum or iron
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/11/17 03:34 PM
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Well we run an aluminum block in the heads up car and will take the weight saving ANY day over the minimal HP cost from any minor ring seal issue. We used both and there is a VERY VERY VERY tiny amount of difference in power. More than offset by the lower weight of the block. In fact a new Dart ALUMINUM block was just ordered for it a couple weeks ago as it will be going to a much shorter deck height for next year. Also ordered was another block for a S/G racer for the same reason, the weight. Everything will be transferred from the old 582, rotating assy etc and headed to the dyno. I don't expect to see more than a 5hp difference.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/11/17 03:54 PM
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When it comes to a BB Mopar....... I'll take the 150lb weights saving from an aluminum block every time.
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/12/17 02:48 AM
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In fact a new Dart ALUMINUM block was just ordered for it a couple weeks ago as it will be going to a much shorter deck height for next year. I assume this is not a mopar block?
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/12/17 02:06 PM
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Yes a Chevy deal..FWIW I have four engines all with aluminum blocks and wont go back to iron...
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/13/17 11:15 AM
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My car has a very nice late Mega Block, 4.505" with bushed lifter bores. I'd love to have a nice aluminum block. Doug Have the aluminum 4.5 bore version of your iron World block in the basement. Thing can't even weigh 150. Mike
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Re: Aftermarket RB Block
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10/13/17 12:38 PM
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I have a World cast iron hemi block in the shop and holy crap is that thing a tank!
My KB hemi block is about 140 lbs if I remember right. I'll take the aluminum block all day every day over cast iron.
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