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It is time once again to buy some new tires. Has anyone purchased BF Goodrich T/As recently? I am looking for a good price but more important, too see if the white letter browning issue has been resolved.


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I just bought a set of BFG 235/60/15 from Summitt last month when I was in Reno for Hot August Nights. Coker took over their line of tires. Haven't mounted them yet.


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I had a set mounted up back in May...no idea if the letters will turn brown but so far, they look fine.

Now you have me wondering!

Have you considered different tires? Yes the options for our tire sizes are minimal but there is the Mickey Thompson Sportsman SR.

I don't think either tire is particularly good (by 2017 standards) but some say the MTs are slightly stickier than the BFG T/As and this may help avoid the BFG letter problem.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-6...ASABEgK5y_D_BwE


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$142 vs $127.... Might have to try the MT-s.

Thanks for posting that option.

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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
$142 vs $127.... Might have to try the MT-s.

Thanks for posting that option.


Check with costco or sams.... FREE shipping and prices are usually good....

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Originally Posted By 340wedge
It is time once again to buy some new tires. Has anyone purchased BF Goodrich T/As recently? I am looking for a good price but more important, too see if the white letter browning issue has been resolved.


I'm in the market for a new set of tires, and was wondering the same thing. According to one of the consumer reviews on the BFG website, the 235's are fine but the 255's and bigger have the brown letter problem.

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Not resent enough to help I don't think.

Bought a set of 5 255/60/15 roughly in 2014, I think the numbers on the tires showed they were 1 yr old at the time. Wasn't able to get the car on the road till summer of 2015, and yep the white letters will brown.

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I have owned BFG's in the past, and currently have M/T on my pickup and the M/T is the better tire of the two.

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I had some TA's on a car that I didn't drive much. They appeared to get flat spots from setting. Seemed like it took about ten miles of driving to get them round again and that first ten miles really sucked!

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I recently bought a set of four Cooper Cobra GT Radials. I have been very happy with them.

275/60/15's and 225/70/15's.

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I recently bought Cooper Cobra 245/60R15 for the front and Nitto 275/60R15 for the rear for better street traction.


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Originally Posted By 69_SIX_PACK
I recently bought a set of four Cooper Cobra GT Radials. I have been very happy with them.

275/60/15's and 225/70/15's.

Dave


Same here, I replaced my T/A's with a set of the Cooper Cobra's. Saved a lot of money and they ride very nice.

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There is no more good pricing on BFG Radial T/A's.
Last time you could get good pricing was around 2009.
And this is just a middle of the road tire.
Now they are $130 and up. That's why I stopped buying them.
You can get just as good a tire with Hankook, Cooper etc for less.
Browning on the letters? Yes, the T/A's are having that problem.
The browning of the letters are happening on both
smaller and larger sizes.
Also, the letter fonting has changed a little bit. They are a little
bolder than than they have been in the years past. But, that's ok.


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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
$142 vs $127.... Might have to try the MT-s.

Thanks for posting that option.


Mounted up a set of Micky Thompson S/T radials on the Savoy this year and I couldn't be happier thumbs
275's on the rear and 195's on the front and the stance is perfect.

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Bought BFG 245s a couple of years back through summit. Letters are still white.
For me the made in USA thing is the only thing stopping me from other brands.

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Seems like I read somewhere that the Mickeys are made by Cooper. They would be my choice and then the regular Coopers. I thought that Coopers were made in the US? BFG's really are not that good a tire to begin with, but were about the only nostalgia game in town. Now,if Goodyear made the old Polyglas into a radial, like they did with the Firestone wide oval, that is what I would be looking at.

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My front 245s are still white after 5 years, the 275 rears....NOT

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Originally Posted By thehemikid
Not resent enough to help I don't think.

Bought a set of 5 255/60/15 roughly in 2014, I think the numbers on the tires showed they were 1 yr old at the time. Wasn't able to get the car on the road till summer of 2015, and yep the white letters will brown.


I'm in a similar situation. I recently bought a paint pen to try and get the letters white again. I have not tried it yet.


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Just looked up 225 60 15's in Radial TA"s

Looks like they are not longer available????

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Originally Posted By floridian
Just looked up 225 60 15's in Radial TA"s

Looks like they are not longer available????


In stock at tire rack

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearc...rearDiameter=17


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Just looked up 225 60 15's in Radial TA"s

Looks like they are not longer available????


In stock at tire rack

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearc...rearDiameter=17


up TY, did not have them at Sams or Summit...

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Dixie, I have a paint marker & a China marker, may play with those on an old tire.

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I just steel wool mine with a little soap. Whitens them right up. I buy my TAs through summit. Free shipping and 3 days.


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Originally Posted By Lee446
Now,if Goodyear made the old Polyglas into a radial, like they did with the Firestone wide oval, that is what I would be looking at.


You want Goodyear Polyglas radials? I've got them on my car.........
If I can just figure out how to post this picture now.

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Well...... that didn't work!
GOT IT!

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Well, that looks great!

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I have two friends with BF's and the tires turned brown and one of them replaced them under warranty and that st turned brown

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Originally Posted By buildanother
Well, that looks great!


Thanks! But they are really BFG T/A's. I put black walls out and stenciled the Good Year on them. I've got reproduction Polyglas's on another set of rims for shows, but the radials are a softer ride for around town. Nothing beats the look of the Polyglas in my book!

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I agree

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Originally Posted By 71 Charger R/T
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Well, that looks great!


Thanks! But they are really BFG T/A's. I put black walls out and stenciled the Good Year on them. I've got reproduction Polyglas's on another set of rims for shows, but the radials are a softer ride for around town. Nothing beats the look of the Polyglas in my book!


How you do that????


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Originally Posted By cudagee
I have two friends with BF's and the tires turned brown and one of them replaced them under warranty and that st turned brown


Wesleys Whitwall Cleaner. Spray it on, scrub with a tire brush and rinse off. The stuff is cheap.


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Wesley's tire white will not touch this particular problem. I have been using it for years. will not whiten the lettering on these tires.

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Originally Posted By 71 Charger R/T
Originally Posted By buildanother
Well, that looks great!


Thanks! But they are really BFG T/A's. I put black walls out and stenciled the Good Year on them. I've got reproduction Polyglas's on another set of rims for shows, but the radials are a softer ride for around town. Nothing beats the look of the Polyglas in my book!


So, I was thinking of doing the "tire sticker" thing, but I'd like to know more about how you did yours?


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Originally Posted By gtx-guy
Wesley's tire white will not touch this particular problem. I have been using it for years. will not whiten the lettering on these tires.


They must be really bad. Does Oregon use magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, calcium magnesium acetate and potassium acetate on the roads in the winter?

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We have a guy here in Phoenix that has a vulcanizing process to put blue and red lines on tires. It's a portable setup, does the tires on the car. Everyone I've talked with that had the process done to their tires have no complaints.


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The last 3 set of 275 60 15 bfg t/a s turned brown after a month 235 60 15 and 245 s didnt

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Originally Posted By dart4forte
Originally Posted By gtx-guy
Wesley's tire white will not touch this particular problem. I have been using it for years. will not whiten the lettering on these tires.


They must be really bad. Does Oregon use magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, calcium magnesium acetate and potassium acetate on the roads in the winter?


About 10 years ago a "new" guy from some northeast state took over at ODOT for winter maintenance and some sort of spray was being applied to the streets BEFORE any snow or ice happened..

I can only assume the worst from this NON Native Oregonian..

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certain sizes of Radial T/A are made by Coker Tire - not sure if it is Coker's tires that stay "white" or turn "brown"

just got some 245/60/15s & 295/50/15s and 2 were from Coker (they're all still blue)

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I'm wondering how many REAR tires are turning brown? It's not rocket science.

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Originally Posted By JMCFAN
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Originally Posted By buildanother
Well, that looks great!


Thanks! But they are really BFG T/A's. I put black walls out and stenciled the Good Year on them. I've got reproduction Polyglas's on another set of rims for shows, but the radials are a softer ride for around town. Nothing beats the look of the Polyglas in my book!


How you do that????


I looked at the "tire stickers" also and liked that idea , but this was a much cheaper alternative! I had some plastic/vinyl spray paint and some wrapper stock. So I took some paper, did a pencil rub of one of my repro Polyglas's and transferred that on to the wrapper stock and cut it out with a razor blade to make a stencil. (crude but effective) Just centered the stencil and sprayed. Looks pretty convincing from a few feet away and undetectable when rolling down the road. The only give away is the ride and sidewall/tread pattern.

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Full pic.

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Originally Posted By 71 Charger R/T
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Originally Posted By buildanother
Well, that looks great!


Thanks! But they are really BFG T/A's. I put black walls out and stenciled the Good Year on them. I've got reproduction Polyglas's on another set of rims for shows, but the radials are a softer ride for around town. Nothing beats the look of the Polyglas in my book!


How you do that????


I looked at the "tire stickers" also and liked that idea , but this was a much cheaper alternative! I had some plastic/vinyl spray paint and some wrapper stock. So I took some paper, did a pencil rub of one of my repro Polyglas's and transferred that on to the wrapper stock and cut it out with a razor blade to make a stencil. (crude but effective) Just centered the stencil and sprayed. Looks pretty convincing from a few feet away and undetectable when rolling down the road. The only give away is the ride and sidewall/tread pattern.





Nicely done!!


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Not only that, but that's a sweet car too. twocents

Is the paint holding up so far? Any cracks in the paint from all the flexing?


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Re: BF Goodrich T/A [Re: 340wedge] #2401180
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Thanks for the props! Yes the paint holds up very well. No cracking. I think its because it's for plastic, it probably is formulated with more elasticity.

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what product do you use to give the black wall a semi sheen ? does it affect the lettering in any way ? how do you clean the sidewall ?
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My front BGF's are still white. My rears have turned brown. I have used everything to clean them & the brown comes right back. Eventually, took a white paint pen & redid the letters. This has held up for several years but is starting to flake of now.


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Re: BF Goodrich T/A [Re: 340wedge] #2402832
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I had BFG's on the rear of my car. They were like stones, I could have pulled 2 plug wires off and still tore the street up n smoke. There are better options available.

Re: BF Goodrich T/A [Re: moparx] #2403995
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Originally Posted By moparx
what product do you use to give the black wall a semi sheen ? does it affect the lettering in any way ? how do you clean the sidewall ?
beer

I use Barret Jackson tire shine for the sheen. It doesn't affect the lettering. I just wash the tires as normal when needed. (scrub brush and comet) I wiped the sidewall down with a lacquered rag before stenciling the letters, so it sticks pretty darn good! I still have an old burned off tire from a smoke show from about 6 years ago, I did the same thing to. it still looks pretty decent for sitting out in the weather, leaning against my shed in the sun for that long. I'll snap a photo and see if I can attach it here.

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Not sure if that worked..... picture seems to start to generate, then disappears to the little blue question mark. What'd I do wrong? I'm not real savvy with this stuff!

There!!

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It worked the first time! I always like the size of the Goodyear letters. It always seemed like the BFG's and especially the Dunlop's were too big. I'm a black wall out guy anyway, I think black walls show off the wheels better. I know a guy that thinks that if you have wheel lip moldings that you should have black walls. No chrome around the opening, raised white letters.

Re: BF Goodrich T/A [Re: dart4forte] #2404446
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Originally Posted By dart4forte
We have a guy here in Phoenix that has a vulcanizing process to put blue and red lines on tires. It's a portable setup, does the tires on the car. Everyone I've talked with that had the process done to their tires have no complaints.


A neighbor of mine had the same thing done and was happy. I bought some tire paint to re-color my BFG's. But, now that I think about it, flipping them around and putting redlines on them might be better. Just not sure how they'll look with slots.


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Anyone tried the newish Milestar Street Steel tires yet?

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Re: BF Goodrich T/A [Re: 340wedge] #2404656
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Sorry but that edge tread pattern is B$tt ugly


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