Street/strip motor timing curve?
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What ha v e you folks found to work well with a similar setup? 408 magnum, EQ heads with 2.02 intakes,10.1/1 compression with .039 quench on one side, 15/8 stepped to 1 3/4 headers, cam is a Muthr Thumper with 291/311 lsa107 cam, in at 105. The .050 numbers are 235 @ .050 intake and 249 exhaust, with lifts of (?) .560 and .550. I bought a new MP distributor, and took a shot at what I hope is close to a good curve. It should have about 18 degrees mechanical advance, initial setting of 16 degrees for 34 total. I messed with the biggest spring so it comes in a little slower due to the short distributor advance and high initial. This is a pump gas motor running 93 BP e10 gas.
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Re: Street/strip motor timing curve?
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For cruising with a light throttle input you would like more timing.. maybe as much as 45-50* but thats stuff you have to play with.. for the rest of the timing your in the ball park except for when it comes in and how fast it comes in... if you dont have a dist machine it can get old trying to get it figured out.. lots of playing
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Re: Street/strip motor timing curve?
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After fooling around with light springs to have it all in by 1500, taking all but maybe 15 degrees advance out of it and trying to get a decent idle below 1000 on a lot of this stuff, I get to the point where I just lock it out and stay conservative on the total for putting around on the street. Idles nice in gear with the biggest cams below 1000RPM, nice response, carb's adjusted where it's meant to be. Starting can be a bit of an issue on some, but a start retard and/or electronically controlled advance curve works too.
If it's all in by 1500, the only thing accomplished leaving the advance functional is avoiding the possible hard start issue.
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Re: Street/strip motor timing curve?
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Yeah, lots of playing, I agree! That is one thing that is really nice about switching to EFI. You just type in the advance that you want at each point and it does it. No more screwing around with springs and dashpots and retard modules. I don't think I'm ever going back to using a distributor...... If I had thought this through a bit Andy, I would have gone that way after buying a new carb and fuel pump, I suppose I was half way there at least? The biggest concern I have is too quick of a rate on the mechanical advance because of the small cam/iron head/high compression combo. I will start dyno testing with a little race gas in the mix and time allowing will try strait 93e10 to see how it likes it . Thanks for all the input, folks.
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