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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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02/25/09 09:41 AM
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Allen, what track is that in this picture and are you living in Bend now? If so (in Bend) cotact me if you want aboutr making a plan on whuppen up on them silver Camaro 
Cab that picture is from the portland track. No I do not live in bend the economy there sucks! Now as far as those two silver camaros go I plan on a severe azz whooping for both even though they are great folks! 
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: dthemi]
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02/25/09 10:17 AM
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I like bracket racing, and did that more than anything. I ran a SG car for a long time, and loved it. It started to suck when the stutter box thing happened, and I quit SG racing. It was more fun to just bracket race at full throttle. I'll do it again at some point in the future, save some money, and maybe have more fun.
Full power bracket racing is a good thing to me, just don't like the feeling of a launch, then letting the car fall on it's face only to have it blast off again.
Man,I HATE watching throttle stop racing-light turns green,hit the gas and car falls flat on it`s face.NHo fun to watch for spectators and I can`t think it would be much fun as a driver.
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: dannysbee]
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02/25/09 10:46 AM
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Bracket Racing is a blast, those that run it down are usually the ones that stink at it or don't know anything about it. 
I've done both and it's OK as a stop gap but I enjoy the challenge of making the car as fast as possible within rule guidelines. This involves innovation and out-of-the-box thinking in a lot of cases. I don't even drive any more but I am enjoying what I do as much or more than when I did drive. Heads up racing isn't for everyone hence bracket racing.
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: RemCharger]
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02/25/09 03:21 PM
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The only form of racing where the brain is mightier than the wallet... 
Funny but true.
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 07:19 PM
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The only form of racing where the brain is mightier than the wallet...
Actually, I think that covers all forms of racing.
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: torredcuda]
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02/25/09 07:39 PM
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I like bracket racing, and did that more than anything. I ran a SG car for a long time, and loved it. It started to suck when the stutter box thing happened, and I quit SG racing. It was more fun to just bracket race at full throttle. I'll do it again at some point in the future, save some money, and maybe have more fun.
Full power bracket racing is a good thing to me, just don't like the feeling of a launch, then letting the car fall on it's face only to have it blast off again.
Man,I HATE watching throttle stop racing-light turns green,hit the gas and car falls flat on it`s face.NHo fun to watch for spectators and I can`t think it would be much fun as a driver.
Jeff, I have to agree that T/S Index Racing is boring for the spectators, but from a driver's standpoint it's anything but boring.
I leave on the vert at 6,000 rpm, pull the wheels out of the beams, drop to 3500 rpm .150 out and on the stop for approx. 2.5 sec @ 3500 rpm for a 1/4 mile run and mph @ 163+ on a 9.90 index....NOTHING BORING ABOUT THAT... 
Rickster
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02/25/09 08:38 PM
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 09:18 PM
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My what big.................Tires you have, and wasn't it someone that looks just like you that bought a new aluminum block. The rest of us peons will just have to make do with our old tractor motors.
Yes and I took a whole season off to afford the aluminum block. Now when I become one of those that inherited their daddys daddys business and goes into the office around 10:30am to check on their "Employees" and leaves at noon for the rest of the day to go "Class race" with their Roller cam 600 plus cubic inch, tubed chassis, wanna be prostocks I will quit bracket racing? 
Yes, I did inherit my Dad's job (Construction Worker)but it appears I got shorted on the employees, 600 inches, and tubed chassis. I hope we both can be running for the Mopar Nationals. I take nothing for granted anymore. P.S. I want a lightweight crankshaft.
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 09:33 PM
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Back in the 70's I use to class race at both Minnesota Dragways and Northstar. One of my last cars back then ran in HS/A and had a blast with it until I decided to go faster and got thrown into FFX/A. I lost alot running FFX/A and didn't have the cash to go any faster so I decided to start bracket racing which put the fun back into it way back then.
Jerry Williams.
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: 540dust]
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02/25/09 09:56 PM
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The only form of racing where the brain is mightier than the wallet...
Actually, I think that covers all forms of racing.
Well, Theres no way in he!! I could ever beat a heads up car, but on the other hand...... 
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02/25/09 10:01 PM
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 10:06 PM
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Just to crash this bracket racer's love-in....
Is there another form of racing out there, any form at all, where the first competitor to reach the finish line loses because they went too fast? Honestly....just asking. I don't even know why its called "racing" to begin with. Think about it. A 16 second car can potentially beat a 10 second car, if the 16 second car has a better package. I think it should be renamed, Consistency Contest. Yeah I know, it doesn't sound as cool or sexy, but it better describes what's going on. Think about my comments before y'all get insulted and defensive. Yes, I already understand that it takes a certain amount of driver skill and ability to set up the car for consistency so it can go rounds. And no, 1FastMopar didn't ask me to write all this. Now, who can make a reasonable argument as to where my comments are all wrong?
One Question First Dave: What class do you race in...???
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 10:27 PM
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Just to crash this bracket racer's love-in....
Is there another form of racing out there, any form at all, where the first competitor to reach the finish line loses because they went too fast? Honestly....just asking. I don't even know why its called "racing" to begin with. Think about it. A 16 second car can potentially beat a 10 second car, if the 16 second car has a better package. I think it should be renamed, Consistency Contest. Yeah I know, it doesn't sound as cool or sexy, but it better describes what's going on. Think about my comments before y'all get insulted and defensive. Yes, I already understand that it takes a certain amount of driver skill and ability to set up the car for consistency so it can go rounds. And no, 1FastMopar didn't ask me to write all this. Now, who can make a reasonable argument as to where my comments are all wrong?
If you have 10 eight second cars, and a 7 second car pulls up at a heads up deal,, would you call that a race? I would call it a wallet contest. And there is already a winner before it begins  . When everyone is on equal footing, NOW you find out who can really race, and who the clowns are that can't figure out why their multi$$$ car can't win 
Don't get me wrong, everything has its place. But I'd rather know at the end of the day who the winner is, than at the begining. 
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 10:33 PM
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Yes, I already understand that it takes a certain amount of driver skill and ability to set up the car for consistency so it can go rounds.
well i won't dispute any of your points but this one...it takes a little more than "a certain" amount. if you add in the super class racers which should be added it takes a freakin mountain of skill when there are plenty of races being decided in thousandths or even tenths. you think there is any other type of racing where drivers are putting up the consistant accuracy that bracket/super racers are? yea a lot of the heads up classes are cool and require skill (as well as bottomless pockets) not dissing them but in a lot of cases it's all about cutting a check not a light
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 10:36 PM
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Just to crash this bracket racer's love-in....
Is there another form of racing out there, any form at all, where the first competitor to reach the finish line loses because they went too fast? Honestly....just asking. I don't even know why its called "racing" to begin with. Think about it. A 16 second car can potentially beat a 10 second car, if the 16 second car has a better package. I think it should be renamed, Consistency Contest. Yeah I know, it doesn't sound as cool or sexy, but it better describes what's going on. Think about my comments before y'all get insulted and defensive. Yes, I already understand that it takes a certain amount of driver skill and ability to set up the car for consistency so it can go rounds. And no, 1FastMopar didn't ask me to write all this. Now, who can make a reasonable argument as to where my comments are all wrong?
don't you have some lug nuts to polish?
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
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02/25/09 11:05 PM
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Think about it. A 16 second car can potentially beat a 10 second car, if the 16 second car has a better package.
if the 16 second car has a better package. you pretty much said it all right there. 
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Re: Thank God for bracket racing
[Re: jamesc]
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02/26/09 12:06 AM
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Yes, I already understand that it takes a certain amount of driver skill and ability to set up the car for consistency so it can go rounds.
well i won't dispute any of your points but this one...it takes a little more than "a certain" amount. if you add in the super class racers which should be added it takes a freakin mountain of skill when there are plenty of races being decided in thousandths or even tenths. you think there is any other type of racing where drivers are putting up the consistant accuracy that bracket/super racers are? yea a lot of the heads up classes are cool and require skill (as well as bottomless pockets) not dissing them but in a lot of cases it's all about cutting a check not a light
Running heads up does not have to be hugely expensive but it probably cost more than most bracket racing. Just because you spend a lot of money guarantees you exactly nothing. Yes you need good parts but that's only part of the equation. In the heads up racing we do we use 10.5W tires on a car that has to run 6.80 to have a chance. Every single aspect(converter, suspension, tire pressure, shock setting, two step, rear end ratio, wheelie bar height and on and on) of the car has to be correct. You have to figure how much power you take out of the engine to get it off of the starting line and where to put it back in. The car will wheelie at half track if the power ramps back in too quickly. This type of racing is a completely different animal. And you still have to cut a good light.
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I am sure I wouldn't have much of a chance though! 
I still want to go as fast as I can afford and that will mean bracket racing for me. 
