Todd you have been helping as much as you can. Thank you for that. This is not your problem but you like what you do and want to help, that is stand up. There is a lot of people who are not even involved in this and a few that are. I talked to Tim this am and trust me I do not like to bother him. He is trying to run a business and figure out kb. He is a nice guy. I do understand everyone just wants solid information. It has been a tough road thanks to Ken. Darren apparently is the man of the group. No communication was started by Ken and has continued for all of this year so far except for blocks are flowing to new customers. After the smoke clears it would be something for Ken to speak out on what he did to everyone and at the least apologize for what he did. As for Ken is still involved. KB is tarnished right now to quite a few due to the past. If Darren would have communicated more clearly thru this it would have been better. Lets hope for the best and hopefully go racing soon!!!

My 2 sense in something I am not involved with, but would like to comment.
On the investors side of the fence: It does take time, engineering, planning, $$$ good PR packaging and a common business sense to get things off the ground right from the start as in making blocks with no known name or history to them.

KB was a name synonymous with great products and performance so it was a given to latch onto that legacy and their block/design casting jigs.

Now, on the side of those who are owed: In this case, the investors have what seems to be good intentions, but while being tethered to a now infamous name that has dug quite a few holes for itself.
Lots of dirty laundry has to pass the wash cycle before it smells of clean and dry and the investors should know this going into this hot kitchen.
That being said, I would clean up the messy dishes with good durable and perfectly machined blocks first and foremost delivered to those who are owed. Only then will the wash cycle water come clean and only then will the Hemi and Wedge guru's be there on line to make good examples of the new blocks for current and future clients.



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There is more going on behind the scenes at Keith Black Racing than we will ever know. First of all issues were dating back 5 plus years as far as foundry issues, pollution laws, being located in California, loss of trained personal, and who knows what else. Just hiring workers today to do some of these "dirty jobs" would make you scratch your head. Some of the Millwrights that applied were I worked couldn't even light a dam torch let along burn something with it. And that was after 50% failed drug tests.

A little more insight about some of the potential problems with the KB blocks, Buddy Bar foundry(use to be Alcoa aluminum foundry in the heyday of Aerospace) use to cast KB blocks, they may be out of business now due to the CA enviormental laws.
I called and talk to Ken Black several years ago about the issues raised on this site and he told me that he had lost his vendor on the block castings and the cores casting for the blocks, he was having quality control issues on the castings cores ruining the blocks castings enough to make them unusable.
Hopefully both of those issues are resolved now

Yes AlCOA lost its doors to a lot of competition overseas and I'm not talking China, I'm talking Sweden and Ireland where a host of new smelting factories have popped up to make and machine aluminum.
There are a few casting facilities still here in the US, but how many of them are willing to deal with the headaches associated with machining blocks to specs.

I can't and won't speak to what I don't know. What I will tell you is that this member only invested the cost of the block in "this scam." I do hope your situation is resolved properly and promptly. I have no means or information that can help. If I did I would.

Don't have a comment, just want to move the topic back up. So it's not forgotten!!!!!

It's been a week since this was posted. I don't care how busy anybody thinks they are. You're not that busy people. Time to take ownership of this blemished calf.

It's been a week since this was posted. I don't care how busy anybody thinks they are. You're not that busy people. Time to take ownership of this blemished calf.

I'm not surprised anymore...

According to the announcement the new investors have a combined 60% stake in the company, the Blacks have 40%.



Still lots of potential for trouble tho with no one holding 51%.

Kevin

We pay too much and still get ripped off.

And we say the chevy guys are the dicks.

For the so called dummies

Another

Those are iron blocks are they not?

Kevin

Yes iron but still with a rot. assembly.

Just simply stating that some have the luxury of a simple few mouse clicks and they know in short order what they will have.

My friend just got a iron 632 setup ordered, will have it in a week.

Shop told me they can get me a dart aluminium block for 1300 no work ..

I was able to see a KB block next to an Indy block.The KB is worth every penny more than the INdy!!!!

Last year Jegs was practically giving away LS blocks for $250! How much for a GenIII Hemi?

Is it because demand is that much lower for Chrysler products, or is it because they know we'll pay? I can't speak for all Mopar enthusiasts under 30 yrs old, but I personally don't have a problem with adding a motor plate and an LSX/PowerGlide into my Coronet.

It is demand, go to any track or car show and look at the ratio of GMs to Mopars.
If a company was able to sell 1 Mopar block for every 10 GM blocks they made, it would probably be cost effective for regular production. It's high risk to manufacture anything that's going to take a long time for ROI.

BUMP!

NEWS?

Would someone please define, 'very near future'

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Shined on.

To be deliberately ignored. Actually, worse than being ignored. Your presence not even being acknowledged. Someone talking to others around you, and passing you up .

I can hear next summers crickets already.