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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #232916
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This 1971 Hemi Cuda had the same white stamped wire and red cap boot as the 67 did.

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #232917
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my 70 coronet r/t has a april 70 build date... what quarter would be correct....1st quarter or 2nd quarter

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: 340dart4spd ] #232918
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if it's an early april - 1st quarter could be correct

repops are only avail in 3rd and 1st quarter of each succesive model year

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: gtx6970] #232919
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NOS dist cap boot on the left - repop on the right

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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: gtx6970] #232920
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Repop coil wire - coil end

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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: gtx6970] #232921
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plug wires - cap ends - repop

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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: gtx6970] #232922
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The parting lines on the red end of orig versus repos also runs in opposite directions. The repo ends have writing on them where origs usually dont. There are more details too, like wires being inserted into the wire and bent over before theyre crimped etc. Once you really know the fine details you can tell the differences in 5 seconds.

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: Paul Jacobs] #232923
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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: Paul Jacobs] #232924
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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: Paul Jacobs] #232925
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repo ends with writing

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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: Paul Jacobs] #232926
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Dist cap 90* repro on the left NOS on right notice the 2Q-70 on the NOS one.

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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: RT_6_PakShaker] #232927
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Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduc [Re: Paul Jacobs] #232928
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The parting lines on the red end of orig versus repos also runs in opposite directions. The repo ends have writing on them where origs usually dont. There are more details too, like wires being inserted into the wire and bent over before theyre crimped etc. Once you really know the fine details you can tell the differences in 5 seconds.




I haven't judged in quite a few years but are the judges now pulling plug wires and pulling off the boots during OEM judging ?


Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduc [Re: JohnRR] #232929
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No they are not, but the small details shown are definately being taken into consideration!

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: RT_6_PakShaker] #232930
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Dist cap 90* repro on the left NOS on right notice the 2Q-70 on the NOS one.




so paul, why cant the reproduction guys get the details correct if they are taking it off an original set?
it seems that the boots aren't even close to looking correct.
why cant they make them look correct if the patterns are there to reproduce?

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Dist cap 90* repro on the left NOS on right notice the 2Q-70 on the NOS one.




so paul, why cant the reproduction guys get the details correct if they are taking it off an original set?
it seems that the boots aren't even close to looking correct.
why cant they make them look correct if the patterns are there to reproduce?





Likely because they cut costs by finding a currently avaliable boot style that is close enough for all but the most detail oriented restorer...

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #232932
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Dist cap 90* repro on the left NOS on right notice the 2Q-70 on the NOS one.




so paul, why cant the reproduction guys get the details correct if they are taking it off an original set?
it seems that the boots aren't even close to looking correct.
why cant they make them look correct if the patterns are there to reproduce?





Likely because they cut costs by finding a currently avaliable boot style that is close enough for all but the most detail oriented restorer...




to me it just just make any sense going that ar into the designing of the repro wires with logos and wire color only to come up short with boots that are totally wrong.the angles and shapes are completely wrong.
they sell for top dollar and cant get it right. its mind boggling.

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction #232933
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Reproductions are designed to fill a market void. And this is just MY opinion .
But in my mind there will be - has to be something to differentiate the originals from reproductions. ( keep sellers honest imo)
2nd - With any reproduction there will be concessions made in regards to some of the smaller details. Think of the costs involved to either tool up for every single piece, or use currently avail smaller pieces. Lets be honest how many here would pay twice( maybe more, maybe less) the price to get an exact duplicate of an original set?

I'm happy with a nice set that looks the part within 90%. Personally,my cars are not garage art/trailer queens. Mine will be driven. So I'm not one of the crowd that needs $400 nos plug wires

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction [Re: gtx6970] #232934
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Reproductions are designed to fill a market void. And this is just MY opinion .
But in my mind there will be - has to be something to differentiate the originals from reproductions. ( keep sellers honest imo)
2nd - With any reproduction there will be concessions made in regards to some of the smaller details. Think of the costs involved to either tool up for every single piece, or use currently avail smaller pieces. Lets be honest how many here would pay twice( maybe more, maybe less) the price to get an exact duplicate of an original set?

I'm happy with a nice set that looks the part within 90%. Personally,my cars are not garage art/trailer queens. Mine will be driven. So I'm not one of the crowd that needs $400 nos plug wires




Bill, in due respect,and not bashing-i dont buy that one bit.
are you telling me to duplicate the plug and distributor boots will double the price of those wires, i dont think so, maybe add $20.00 to the set if that.
why take the trouble of reproducing a part only to get it half right. just doesnt make sense.
why are the battery cables and shaker bubble brackets,idle solenoids, wire harnesses, etc.so meticulously detailed correct.
Dave at ECS goes the extra mile in order to make the correct decals, why cant the spark plug wire vender make is correct.
you see almost every restored car out there with these wires on their cars, so its definitely not a quantity needed issue.

Re: Dated plug wires- comparisons - NOS versus Reproduction #232935
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100%...Why would someone want a 75% correct part that cost so much ? That the problem with LOTS of reproduction parts...a very high price and poor quality. If everyone would make parts with the quality and corectness that ECS and some others are making now the hobby would be better off.

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