Re: 1969 B Body Lower Control Arms
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06/23/17 12:46 AM
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I rebuild Mopar LCA's & UCA's as a way to supplement my social security, and a way for me to have a bit of extra income. You may recognize my work, in the for sale sections in lots of the internet web sites. Literally have rebuilt hundreds of LCAs in the past decade and beyond.
Anyway, i have found that Moog bushings, have recently changed in the way they are now manufactured. In the way the rubber is now molded onto the bushing itself.
I had trouble also, with the new bushings, using the new ones that i got. I figured out a way that worked for me, was to put the bushing end to the wire wheel brush on my bench grinder to remove the excessive molded rubber that they now have on them. For me that rubber made it lots harder to press the bushing, and shaft, into the LCA.
The next time a do a pair of LCA's I'm gonna try this method. Press the bushing into the LCA. Brace the back side of installed bushing with a 9/16 deep well impact socket, and then press the shaft into the bushing.
Gonna see how that works for me.
Kinda, sorta, hard for me to explain, but maybe you can figure it all out. Jim V. hemi71x
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Re: 1969 B Body Lower Control Arms
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06/23/17 01:01 AM
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Hi Jim,
I did noticed that also with the new bushings. The rubber is completely around the surface. Maybe the diameter has also changed. I might try pressing the bushing in first. I actually used a 9/16 deep impact socket to press out the bushings. That work great. Do you use any grease on assembly? No. Grease is not necessary. Never had to use it on anything that i ever rebuilt.
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Re: 1969 B Body Lower Control Arms
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06/24/17 10:40 AM
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Hi Jim,
I did noticed that also with the new bushings. The rubber is completely around the surface. Maybe the diameter has also changed. I might try pressing the bushing in first. I actually used a 9/16 deep impact socket to press out the bushings. That work great. Do you use any grease on assembly? Getting out the outer shell was a pain in the ass In your first post you said you tried several sets , not getting them to seat tight You where able to press out these new moog bushings complete as a unit ? Outer shell and all using a 9/16" socket Moog K791 I was debating using the greasable pins and poly http://p-s-t.com/c-1176119-suspension-suspension-components-pivot-shafts.html
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Re: 1969 B Body Lower Control Arms
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06/24/17 11:57 AM
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How I do them
Once the arm is out of the car. Lay them in a press. And with a 5/8" diameter driff ( a deep socket works as well ) I drive the pivot shaft out of the bushing ,,,this usually takes the rubber portion with it. If not, a sharp knife makes quick work of the rubber portion remaining. Leaving the outer shell in place.
I'll fire up the mig welder and run a bead around the inside diameter of the shell maybe an inch down from the top. Take an appropriate size thick washer ( cant remember the size right now ) lay it on top of said welded bead. Again run a bead of weld to keep said washer in place. Basically you weld the washer inside the sleeve . Flip it over and with the same driff ( or socket ) press the shell out from the backside.
Clean the control arm in your method of choice. ( I glass bead them ) Press the bushing into the arm. Once seated take a 5/8" thick wall socket in the from the backside to support the bushings inner sleeve, then press the pivot shaft in. Viola,,, done.
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Re: 1969 B Body Lower Control Arms
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06/24/17 12:09 PM
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I use a large tap to remove the outer shell, bought it on ebay for 15 shipped... can't remember the size, but found the info searching on here. So much easier than any other way. I think it's how the factory service manual recommends. I won't do it any other way now, this cuts the time down a lot and no risk of damage.
68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
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