Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
'70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question #232127
02/21/09 11:37 PM
02/21/09 11:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Can someone post a picture or something to help me out with my ignition key light on my '70 Cuda.I have the single yellow wire running down from the steering column with a female spade connector and I am not sure where it plugs into.I do have the A01 light package and correct harness on my car,but where I thought it plug into,the male spade connector is too large in diameter to plug into the female connector on the end of the light itself.And yes,I am not worth a shitz at reading a wiring diagram!Thanks for the help as always!!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232128
02/22/09 12:08 AM
02/22/09 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27,347
Today? Who Knows?
1_WILD_RT Offline
Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT  Offline
Management Trainee

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27,347
Today? Who Knows?
70 column shouldn't have a spade style connector, it should be a round bullet style connector with moldex body...It plugs into the add-on light harness that plugs into the the dome light circut & a 12v source....If the harness is there it will have a small time delay relay that is about 1.25 long & .75 around taped to the main harness near the steering column...


Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #232129
02/22/09 01:46 AM
02/22/09 01:46 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Harness

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232130
02/22/09 02:52 AM
02/22/09 02:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Randy/Snoopy-Thanks for the help.I guess I mistakenly said spade type connector,when I meant to say bullet type connector.On the end of the actually light itself it has the round/bullet type connector just like the one on the yellow wire on the bottom right in Snoopy's picture.I'm pretty sure I was trying to plug it into the wrong harness.I'll check it out on Sunday and let you know.Thanks again for the help!!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232131
02/22/09 02:58 AM
02/22/09 02:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Wiring Diagram

Last edited by Snoopy; 02/22/09 05:03 PM.
Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232132
02/22/09 03:05 AM
02/22/09 03:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Here is a picture of the harness, I'll try to get a more complete shot.

5043551-DelayWiring.JPG (142 downloads)
Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232133
02/22/09 02:53 PM
02/22/09 02:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Could you post a close up of the correct style connector on both the end of the ignition key light wire and the connector on the harness it plugs into?Thanks again !!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232134
02/22/09 03:17 PM
02/22/09 03:17 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
2983713 Harness - Partial

Key lamp connector is male bullet.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232135
02/22/09 03:18 PM
02/22/09 03:18 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Steering column wiring.
Key lamp connector is female bullet.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232136
02/22/09 03:28 PM
02/22/09 03:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Here is a picture of the 2983 713 lamp harness plugged into the main dash harness.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232137
02/22/09 05:48 PM
02/22/09 05:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Thanks for the additional pictures Snoopy.Look like I have the wrong harness.The one I have in the car has 3 yellow wires coming out of it instead of the two as shown,and has a bare male bullet connector instead of the one inside of the plastic housing.Is anyone repopping the correct harness (M&H)?? Thanks

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232138
02/22/09 06:06 PM
02/22/09 06:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Compare your time delay relay socket with this one. The left wire is yellow with a black tracer.
The larger yellow wire on the bottom goes to the key lamp.

5044832-TimeDelayPlug.jpg (125 downloads)
Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232139
02/22/09 06:43 PM
02/22/09 06:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Yup,the larger yellow wire on the bottom has the male exposed bullet connector that is too larger to fit into the female bullet connector on the end of the ignition key light wire.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232140
02/22/09 08:22 PM
02/22/09 08:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Closeup of the ignition light plugs.
Harness left - Light right

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232141
02/22/09 08:27 PM
02/22/09 08:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
My key light has the correct end,but harness does not,so I assume I have the wrong harness(I think a 71-4 harness).Snoopy,can you also post a picture of where this light harness plugs into the main harness?Thanks for the help!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232142
02/22/09 08:46 PM
02/22/09 08:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Three connections to main harness:

1. Yellow with black tracer wire plugs into a single female bullet connector with two yellow with black tracer wires.

2. The pink wire plugs into one of the pink three hole bullet connectors with one pink and one gray wire.

3. The yellow wire plugs into the female bullet connector wit two yellow wires.

Circled in blue.

Last edited by Snoopy; 02/22/09 09:07 PM.
Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232143
02/22/09 08:48 PM
02/22/09 08:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Thanks again Snoopy!!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232144
02/22/09 09:07 PM
02/22/09 09:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
I updated the photo and information.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232145
02/25/09 11:44 PM
02/25/09 11:44 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
The 2983713 harness is in color.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232146
02/26/09 01:46 PM
02/26/09 01:46 PM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



Snoopy-Is that 2983713 harness number,the number on the tag or the part number out of the book?Or are they the same? Is 3513427 a superseded number for the 2983713? Thanks!!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question #232147
02/26/09 03:53 PM
02/26/09 03:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
2983713 is on the harness and is in the parts book.
3513427 is in the 70-71 & 72 parts books and is listed for a 71 & 72 E-Body.
Both are listed as - WIRING, Accessory Lamp, Map, Ignition Switch and Title Lamp.

One of the differences is the ignition lamp connector. I don't have a wiring diagram for the 71 or 72 cars, so I can't determine the other differences.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232148
02/26/09 04:54 PM
02/26/09 04:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Here is the wiring diagram for the 71 harness.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232149
02/26/09 05:00 PM
02/26/09 05:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
It appears the only difference is the ignition light connector.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232150
02/26/09 09:03 PM
02/26/09 09:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Snoopy-The harness I got today has the 3513427 parts number tag still on it but has the '70 style bullet connector.Must have been a mid year change or something? Thank you for your help and diagrams!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232151
02/26/09 10:02 PM
02/26/09 10:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Just goes to show you, when it comes to Chrysler, the exception is the rule.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232152
02/26/09 10:22 PM
02/26/09 10:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
You said it! I just pulled out of my car what I thought was the correct A01 harness and after some comparing,it turns out to be the style with the spade connector for the key light.I'm glad I started checking into this as I had it incorrectly installed anyway.So I am either going to install the harness I got today with the correct connector or see if I can switch over the correct connector to what was a NOS 71 harness.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232153
02/26/09 10:27 PM
02/26/09 10:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Snoopy-Forgot to ask one more question.What all plugs into the unique male/female spade connector that has the single yellow wire going into it,just off the side of the key light and the single bullet yellow w/black tracer wire? Thanks again

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232154
02/26/09 10:35 PM
02/26/09 10:35 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Switch title lamp and the over head consolette wiring harness.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232155
02/26/09 10:58 PM
02/26/09 10:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
OK,that's what I thought.Just wanted to make sure.Just to check thou,the switch title light,is the light above the corner rallye dash switch panel and if I don't have an overhead console in the car,that connector stays empty correct? Thanks!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232156
02/26/09 11:29 PM
02/26/09 11:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Switch Title Lamp courtesy of BartekP

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232157
02/26/09 11:39 PM
02/26/09 11:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
OK..I got a few thing backwards.So where does the far left side single light on the rallye dash light bar plug into??

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232158
02/26/09 11:40 PM
02/26/09 11:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Consolette Wiring Harness. This isn't the overhead harness.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232159
02/26/09 11:40 PM
02/26/09 11:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Consolette Wiring Harness Plugs

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232160
02/26/09 11:42 PM
02/26/09 11:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
So that's just if it is a console equipped car.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232161
02/26/09 11:47 PM
02/26/09 11:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Right, no overhead console, no extra wiring.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232162
02/26/09 11:53 PM
02/26/09 11:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Got it.Can you help me out with my other question above about the rallye dash light bar light? Thanks Snoopy!

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232163
02/27/09 12:19 AM
02/27/09 12:19 AM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,165
Florida
C
cataclysm80 Offline
master
cataclysm80  Offline
master
C

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,165
Florida
Wow, Great Thread!

Tav

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232164
02/27/09 01:07 AM
02/27/09 01:07 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
It plugs into the funny looking connector on the time delay wiring harness. Upper right hand corner.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232165
02/27/09 01:50 AM
02/27/09 01:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
Now I'm lost again.I thought the switch title light plug into that funny connector...help

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #232166
02/27/09 01:54 AM
02/27/09 01:54 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
S
Snoopy Offline
master
Snoopy  Offline
master
S

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,850
Central Coast, Calif.
Both lights are called Title Lamps and they both plug into that connector.

Re: '70 E-Body Ignition Key Light Wiring Question [Re: Snoopy] #232167
02/27/09 02:02 AM
02/27/09 02:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
4
44D6PAKCUDA Offline OP
top fuel
44D6PAKCUDA  Offline OP
top fuel
4

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,295
Land of 10,000 Lakes
OK,now I'm found again!I'll hopefully be installing the correct harness this weekend so if I got any more questions Snoopy,I'll drop you a line.Thanks for taking the time and answering all my questions.Have you talked to BeepBeep lately? Hope his doing well.Thanks again

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1