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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: Alaskan_TA] #231169
02/21/09 09:13 PM
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Common small block restoration errors also include the spark plug looms, they should not be painted.

Also, the negative battery cables were not attached to the engine when painted. (this is a big block only thing)



Thanks for the plug loom tip Barry, I didn't know that.

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: 70challrtse] #231170
02/22/09 12:29 AM
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There were two versions of negative battery cable identification for 70-72 small block-equipped cars. First is the most common: Via label:

Can be found about at either end. Either next to terminal at engine end, or about three inches from cable head at battery.

This particular example is a true production line "lunchbox" piece.

Bill Rolik

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231171
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Second version is via direct ink stamping on cable, which is stamped several times along the cable. This is from one of my own cars (1 owner).

Bill Rolik

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231172
02/22/09 12:36 AM
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Another view of the same cable.

BR

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231173
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I now have outstanding repro labels on hand.

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231174
02/22/09 12:39 AM
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Distributor clamps were copper plated. Here are some originals. I have redone these as well, and they are on my website.

BR

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231175
02/22/09 12:43 AM
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As opposed to blue 340 engines, which had painted valve cover wire looms, the earlier orange-painted engines, in every case I have observed, have had unpainted looms.

BR

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231176
02/22/09 03:38 AM
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did the 71 neg cable have a rubber boot at the engine side? the one i pulled out of my71 demon 340 had this, but didn't see any #'s

Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: ademon] #231177
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I have yet to see a boot on a small block.

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: bremotorsports] #231178
02/22/09 01:36 PM
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Second version is via direct ink stamping on cable, which is stamped several times along the cable. This is from one of my own cars (1 owner).

Bill Rolik




Ive never seen this before....wow is that cool. Is there anyone repoping that?

Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: LimeliteAero] #231179
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I have already made the stamp.

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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #231180
03/13/09 10:47 PM
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Tom,
I don't have many pics of 70's, most are 71's. However, there are not allot of differences other than the intake/carb combo.

This one is pretty darn accurate




Is that race hemi orange? It appears brighter than the other 340s on the bottom the page.

Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: scatpacktom] #231181
03/14/09 04:49 PM
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Working on my 70 Duster and I'd like to make sure I have all the right bits and pieces.Anybody got any good shots?





Another major detail that is often over looked pertains to the painted overspray patterns on the exhaust manifolds. These items were painted on the engine. More times than not, the restorer does not correctly calculate the pattern that should result from having these bolted into place. Notice a few of the examples that have been posted here. The bottom of the collector on the exhaust manifold is bare while the immediate background and surrounding area (on the engine block) is completely covered with paint. That particular spray pattern would be impossible if the manifold was painted on the engine. Also take note of the overspray that is evident where the manifold bolts onto the engine. You will see a transparent amount of overspray but the engine will have full heavy paint coverage. If you are going to copy an assembly line job, think through the logic of how the “physics” actual work. It is extremely evident when the process has not been thought through properly and the parts actually clash with each other.
If the manifolds were painted on the engine…. paint them on the engine! Why perform a contrasting (noticeable) two step process?

Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: ECS] #231182
03/14/09 05:02 PM
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Working on my 70 Duster and I'd like to make sure I have all the right bits and pieces.Anybody got any good shots?





Another major detail that is often over looked pertains to the painted overspray patterns on the exhaust manifolds. These items were painted on the engine. More times than not, the restorer does not correctly calculate the pattern that should result from having these bolted into place. Notice a few of the examples that have been posted here. The bottom of the collector on the exhaust manifold is bare while the immediate background and surrounding area (on the engine block) is completely covered with paint. That particular spray pattern would be impossible if the manifold was painted on the engine. Also take note of the overspray that is evident where the manifold bolts onto the engine. You will see a transparent amount of overspray but the engine will have full heavy paint coverage. If you are going to copy an assembly line job, think through the logic of how the “physics” actual work. It is extremely evident when the process has not been thought through properly and the parts actually clash with each other.
If the manifolds were painted on the engine…. paint them on the engine! Why perform a contrasting (noticeable) two step process?





Actually Dave, the easiest way to get the absolute perfect factory paint is to know exactly what was on the engine during the factory paint process. Next, don't paint the engine until the morning after a really good night drinking and you have an incredible hang over. Now, just before you start painting, get in a really big fight with your wife, now you’re ready for a perfect shoddy factory paint job.

Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: HEMICUDA] #231183
03/14/09 05:43 PM
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Re: 70 340 4 bbl engine detail photos [Re: BradD] #231184
03/14/09 08:22 PM
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I would think that 90% of the exhaust manifolds would be covered. I know If I were painting them at the factory I would try to go around them, I would just paint them.

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