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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307408
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I certainly won't miss reaching around hot headers to remove my spark plug to check/change them when I do the 5.7 swap.

As far as lsx motors go, I've built them and gen 3 hemis... to me they are pretty similar and cost wise most parts didn't cost much less for the ls1.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: WO23Coronet] #2307582
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
MSD 6 hemi kits are around $700 ish, not far off what a good distributor/coil/ignition controller would put you back

But I got all the regular stuff already, at no cost. Now you start from scratch. In fifty years I can count on one hand the stuff I bought new.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307610
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Gen 3 Hemi's SUCK!!!

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: STEFF] #2307620
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Originally Posted By STEFF
Gen 3 Hemi's SUCK!!!



Lol. But the girls at the car shows dig them.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307622
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By STEFF
Gen 3 Hemi's SUCK!!!



Lol. But the girls at the car shows dig them.


Nothing wrong with that. boogie


"Everybody funny, now you funny too."
Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: STEFF] #2307787
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Originally Posted By STEFF
Gen 3 Hemi's SUCK!!!



Yeah you can move a lot of CFM thru them stock


Truth has no agenda, but those with an agenda make their own truth.
Some of us are so open minded they only see their View



Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307795
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Rumor has it that SixPackguts G3 car is so fast he can pull 8 plug wires and still run 9s!


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: STEFF] #2307819
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Originally Posted By STEFF
Gen 3 Hemi's SUCK!!!
Ill agree. Our Challenger seemed like it stayed in the shop. Needless to say it got traded off.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307843
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I'll stick with the old school junk. Regardless of what anyone says, the Gen 3's are more expensive to build and install. The headers, oil pans and engine mounts they require are not cheap. The rotating assemblies in side the junkyard pickup truck 5.7's are just that, junk. For a fun, 500-600hp street car, an old school RB build can be done for a fraction of the cost without roller-this or stroker-that.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2307874
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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
I'll stick with the old school junk. Regardless of what anyone says, the Gen 3's are more expensive to build and install. The headers, oil pans and engine mounts they require are not cheap. The rotating assemblies in side the junkyard pickup truck 5.7's are just that, junk. For a fun, 500-600hp street car, an old school RB build can be done for a fraction of the cost without roller-this or stroker-that.

And it's a small block. Too bad that head won't fit on a 440 to 572 ci big block. Now we talking power.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: cudaman1969] #2307909
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
I'll stick with the old school junk. Regardless of what anyone says, the Gen 3's are more expensive to build and install. The headers, oil pans and engine mounts they require are not cheap. The rotating assemblies in side the junkyard pickup truck 5.7's are just that, junk. For a fun, 500-600hp street car, an old school RB build can be done for a fraction of the cost without roller-this or stroker-that.

And it's a small block. Too bad that head won't fit on a 440 to 572 ci big block. Now we talking power.




Aaaaaa I think we have heads that flow SLIGHTLY better than that for big blocks. Heck the W8-W9 stuff that Brett does is impressive as heck.


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307984
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But you can't pick them out of a junkyard, that's the beauty of a G3. You guys that have stuff for a BB stacked like chord wood it would make no sense to build one. Starting from scratch it's still a wash

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: WO23Coronet] #2307991
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I think, that's the deal. If you build good power with the old stuff you need an aftermarket block usually and availability is sketchy. So it will come down to what's available. Waiting months for parts that might never show up doesn't work.


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307997
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Some people you'll never convince.
I'm actually surprised they are even on the internet.
Watching their black and white wooden cabinet tv sets and adjusting the rabbit ears for reception.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: The Shadow] #2308010
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Originally Posted By The Shadow
Some people you'll never convince.
I'm actually surprised they are even on the internet.
Watching their black and white wooden cabinet tv sets and adjusting the rabbit ears for reception.




I updated to one of those electronic rotors on my TV antenna. It works GREAT!!!!!!


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: polyspheric] #2308018
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
Brand loyalty has it's place, but not if it prevents you from completing a project.
An LSX will do anything a G-3 will do for 1/2 the money.



i remember a few years back BES did one for the engine masters contest and was 80hp over the LS piece.pump gas hyd cam 700hp ish pretty impressive from what i can remember and im sure he would have did a LS motor if he knew it would be a winner.340 Rick has one in his 70 chally runs 9.6s i believe also pretty mild build.

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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: KOS] #2308035
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Hardly anyone seems to be doing one for racing....Ain't seen one up close yet...


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2308069
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Oh i forgot to mention Dave S local guy i bought 512 RB off a few years back that he replaced with a boneyard build 5.7 stock 6.1cam and heads with single turbo 3.23gears that ran 8.9s.he is also a member here if you want specifics on his build.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: KOS] #2308079
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Originally Posted By KOS
Oh i forgot to mention Dave S local guy i bought 512 RB off a few years back that he replaced with a boneyard build 5.7 stock 6.1cam and heads with single turbo 3.23gears that ran 8.9s.he is also a member here if you want specifics on his build.



If that was pointed to me I'm not interested in a 8.9's power added build. My 512 will cover that with no adder, but thanks for the offer. Now it only comes down to was that number at one of the mineshaft east coast tracks or inland.


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2308091
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that wasnt directed at anybody just to point out that they are deffinately decent pieces to work with.tell me more about this 8sec 512 very interested!!!

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