Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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I put the 440 back in the 71 charger. After took out to get the car painted There is no carpet in the car and the clutch pedal has about the same amount of travel as the gas pedal....... It has new clutch/pressure plate. New adjustment rod. I could turn the nut on it by hand almost out to the end of the rod. How much travel should the pedal have? (Car is 71 charger)
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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I ain't a clutch/stick guy but I think you want ~3/4" freeplay at the clutch pedal when you first press on it till it "contacts" and iirc a better/more accurate is a certain amt of clearance between the disc/'wheel with pedal depressed. and you would want that linkage coming off either of the bellcrank arms to be in a straight plane of movement.
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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When I had the motor/tranny in before paint. I do not remember it being like this. I pulled them out as a unit. Z bar is new. All new bushings. Stud. Spring clips. All new and installed The rod from pedal to z bar is level. As to why I thought was a stupid question on the install when put back in I don't have the car with me (should got to Brung back home today but didn't happen) Anyone have a 4 gear 3rd Gen b body. That can possibly measure from bottom of the clutch pedal pad to the carpet for me ?
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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A couple of points.. 1. Pedal free-play The crucial spec is that the throwout bearing must be pulled back about 0.125" from the pressure plate. A common mistake is to adjust freeplay up top @ the pedal, the problem with this doesn't take in consideration of any worn linkage parts. 2. Z-bar It is easy to confuse between Z-bars as more than 1 may be the same width but have different tab positions for the adjusting rod. The crucial point is to use a Z-bar so that its tab position permits the adjusting rod to push the fork in a linear motion, so that the adjusting rod should be parallel to the bell housing. Just my $0.02...
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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If I get to bring car home tomorrow...IL try take a pic or 2
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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Ok. Car is home. So i got to looking at it. And took a few pics....if I can get them to laod?.. Seams the pedal was over centered. Pulled up on it and is where it should be. But...... why is it not coming all way back up on its own? It's like when you don't have the clutch pedal hooked up and you shove on it. It will smack the floor. The clutch/pressure plate is only thing keeping from hiring floor. It's still breaking over center Pedals spring and shifter all came out of a bench 4 speed 3rd Gen mopar car (that's what I wanted) Well my pics are to big to load
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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Ok. Car is home. So i got to looking at it. And took a few pics....if I can get them to laod?.. Seams the pedal was over centered. Pulled up on it and is where it should be. But...... why is it not coming all way back up on its own? It's like when you don't have the clutch pedal hooked up and you shove on it. It will smack the floor. The clutch/pressure plate is only thing keeping from hiring floor. It's still breaking over center Pedals spring and shifter all came out of a bench 4 speed 3rd Gen mopar car (that's what I wanted) Well my pics are to big to load Is the over center spring installed under the dash? Also is the return spring installed on the clutch fork?
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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Seams the pedal was over centered. Pulled up on it and is where it should be. But...... why is it not coming all way back up on its own?
Is the new clutch a diaphragm pressure plate? Some (most) diaphragm pressure plates need to have the over-center spring removed. And be sure the fork return spring is installed, they often go missing.
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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Thank you I sent so let me know if they went through How long over all should the rod from pedal to z bar be and il measure mine
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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You still haven't answered the question....is it a diaphragm pressure plate?
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Re: Stupid ? Is it even possible to put the z bar on wrong?
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It's stock clutch/pressure plate like what came in it Buddy of mine was wondering if it came off the pivot inside the bellhop sing. But I will have to pull tranny cause can't see to tell if it did other wise
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