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Chemical dipping #2300048
05/06/17 12:43 PM
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Searching the web I found this on a site and thought it was interesting enough to post here. I've personally tossed a spring or two in an acid solution that would normally only remove rust - only to have them completely disappear! So I thought this would be informative for people who need to restore various springs.

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Will the acid damage the metal?
The acid we use will not damage your sheetmetal parts. We use phosphoric acid that's been used for decades to treat rusted surfaces for paint. Another misconception from the internet or somewhere. Let me state it again: the acid WILL NOT damage your sheetmetal panels, parts, bodies, or cabs. There are a few types of metals that the acid will damage: cast parts, spring metals, & pot metal. We can still clean cast parts and spring parts like seat springs. However, most of the cleaning on these types of metal items is done in the hot tank. Cast parts and spring material parts get only a very light acid treatment to ensure no damage is done to them.


I know there was someone on here a while back who had a window regulator spring deteriorate and fall apart in Evaporust

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I strongly suspect this is the place Graveyard Carz uses.

http://metaldipping.com/

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I used the same place ( when I lived in Oregon) while restoring my 67... Great people and they are gear heads...

I did not dip the body ( I believe the tank was not big enough) but doors and other small parts..

Tried to dip the backs of my buckets to remove the vinyl coating that was on them from the factory ( I painted them) and all it did was clean up the backs.. That is (was) tough stuff to remove...

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The show pricing on a B Body shell at $2100

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Shell ONLY - you're close to 3 G's by the time you add doors, fenders, trunk lid, hood, etc.

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Originally Posted By Stanton
Shell ONLY - you're close to 3 G's by the time you add doors, fenders, trunk lid, hood, etc.


Yes but IIRC the place in Ohio was over 6K with e-coating

Plus you needed to build a fixture for your body because the car has to go in sideways as the tanks are not wide enough

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Ive always been intrigued by acid dipping a uni body. Ideally, it would attack all the spots on the body that are hard to get to by any other method. But, if the car was anything but but solid with only surface rust, wouldn't an acid dip cause some of the more heavily rusted areas on a typical older car to basically disappear? Basically, is acid dipping only a process that safely works for cars that are already in pretty good condition (metal wise)?

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Originally Posted By Adam71Charger
Ive always been intrigued by acid dipping a uni body. Ideally, it would attack all the spots on the body that are hard to get to by any other method. But, if the car was anything but but solid with only surface rust, wouldn't an acid dip cause some of the more heavily rusted areas on a typical older car to basically disappear? Basically, is acid dipping only a process that safely works for cars that are already in pretty good condition (metal wise)?


Well the rust isn't holding anything together so what is the issue?

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I've always been intrigued by acid dipping a uni body. Ideally, it would attack all the spots on the body that are hard to get to by any other method. But, if the car was anything but but solid with only surface rust, wouldn't an acid dip cause some of the more heavily rusted areas on a typical older car to basically disappear? Basically, is acid dipping only a process that safely works for cars that are already in pretty good condition (metal wise)?


If you go to site I posted in the second post, they have a Q & Q page that will answer every question you ever had.

MOST places (and there aren't many to begin with) don't do an e-coat. The big difference being the business model - dippers are in business to remove coatings, e-coaters are in business to apply them. I only found one (in Vancouver, Canada) that offers a zinc coating after stripping.

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Originally Posted By Stanton

MOST places (and there aren't many to begin with) don't do an e-coat. The big difference being the business model - dippers are in business to remove coatings, e-coaters are in business to apply them. I only found one (in Vancouver, Canada) that offers a zinc coating after stripping.


That has always been a concern of mine when chemically dipping parts like doors, hoods, trunk lids and bodies. most only apply a temporary coating to prevent flash rusting. shruggy popcorn







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