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Re: Color [Re: Exit1965] #22910
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Well then, Smoke Grey is probably out. Could anyone who's used a color other than orange/red/yellow (or just anyone in general using a rusto color) post a picture of it and the name of the color?

I know color selection's pretty limited with Rusto colors, so I'm trying to figure out what would be best for the integra. Impossible to do just at the paint shop, though, I need pictures of it on a car

Thanks ahead of time, guys. Picture time!

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Actually if you just get the tintable kind, its like a $1 more or something like that, then you have your choice of 100 colors. I had no clue the Depot carried a tintable version. My body work isnt so good, so I am painting mine with gloss white.
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Re: Color [Re: The Avg. Valiant] #22912
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Well, I went ahead and purchased some Rustoleum and had it tinted turquoise. I thinned with mineral spirits and laid down two very thin coats 24 hours apart, but by the time I sanded out the orange peel, I was pretty much back down to primer (bare metal in spots). Last night I thinned the paint significantly just in case my first attempt wasn't thin enough and laid down a single thin coat. The pictures show the outcome. To me, it still looks too "orange-peely." What do you guys think? Is this what it should look like, or do I need to thin some more? Maybe a thicker coat of thinner paint? Any help is definitely appreciated. Thanks for your input!
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What kind of mineral spirits are you using, the odor or oderless? I used the odor and mine had very little orange peel.

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Well, I went ahead and purchased some Rustoleum and had it tinted turquoise. I thinned with mineral spirits and laid down two very thin coats 24 hours apart, but by the time I sanded out the orange peel, I was pretty much back down to primer (bare metal in spots). Last night I thinned the paint significantly just in case my first attempt wasn't thin enough and laid down a single thin coat. The pictures show the outcome. To me, it still looks too "orange-peely." What do you guys think? Is this what it should look like, or do I need to thin some more? Maybe a thicker coat of thinner paint? Any help is definitely appreciated. Thanks for your input!
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Try thinning it some more. Is it like water, like maalox, like buttermilk, etc?

A thick coat of any thickness paint is not a good idea, so it needs to be a thin coat and you can vary your ratio of mineral spirits and paint.

Are you using the right kind of roller? The one in your picture, I cannot tell if it's the very dense fine foam type..

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I'll try thinning some more. The consistency was pretty watery (ran quickly down the sides of the tray when splashed, etc.). I am using low odor (not regular odorous) mineral spirits, so maybe that's the problem. The roller (which actually appears in one of the pictures wrapped in plastic to keep it from drying out) is the correct fine white sponge roller from home depot. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Who has experience using "odorless" mineral spirits #22916
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Here's how far ive gotten. I've decided to try and tackle the hood in gloss black professional. First coat i think was a littl thick, got some bubbles and it looked peely. Sanded it with dry 600grit to tear into it some. Did another coat much thinner (thinned with mineral spirits) and here's how ive gotten it. Next coat ill do thinner hoping for a little flatter paint. So its one coat that got scrubbed up good, with another on top of it..this looking normal for only say a coat and a half?


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Re: Who has experience using "odorless" mineral spirits [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #22917
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two, that big bush is a good 10feet away lol



I'm hoping to get it better looking than when i got it. I'm shooting for a gloss black hood witha s/s scoop. and a 'safety red' body



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Re: Color [Re: The Avg. Valiant] #22918
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I got it. I'll head out there sometime soon and give it a good look. Thanks.

Re: Who has experience using "odorless" mineral spirits [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #22919
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Update:

I just got done wet sanding my Rusto Proffesional Gloss Black hood. It was sorta easy to scrape with your nail at first, but after I wetsanded it with 600 grit, I can't scratch it off. It's turning out very nicely.

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To all the ones having trouble with odorless mineral spirits, you must not be doing it right. I used odorless with Proffesional Rustoleum, and I had minimal lots of tiny bubbles which popped almost instantly before I could blow on them, and the paint is sticking nicely. I painted it about 7ish lat night and it's already sticking this good.

GoodysGotaCuda:
That looks about what my paint looked like after I rolled over it once. I don't know why it looks like it goes on so thick. I suppose it is because of the black paint. Either way it is looking nice!

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I think the only difference between odorless and full stink mineral spirits is the drying time. They are the same consistency so they shouldn't have anything to do with bubbles popping or forming. I used odorless and had the paint laying nice and flat, bubbles popped instantly, just I did not wait long enough for it to dry before I added more coats. So I've switched to the stinky stuff now.

Re: paint job on a budget!? [Re: Exit1965] #22921
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HI ALL!I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS THREAD FROM THE BEGINNING.THIS IS A PICTURE AFTER THE 6TH COAT OF RUSTOLEM GLOSS SAND.NOT THE PROFESSIONAL GRADE AND 100% MINERAL SPIRITS.SANDED LIKE CHARGER69 AND EXIT1965 SAID TO.AFTER 6TH COAT SANDED WITH 1500 AND BUFFED OUT WITH TURTLEWAX POLISH.WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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I was wondering, since this is technically "paint job on a budget", if anyone used the tintable rustoleum and sprayed it on? Like some of us out there, I do have my project in a small garage, have a compressor, and understand I need an air dryer and dessicant to avoid problems which I wouldn't have with rolling. I know a lot of us have sprayed, but I'm wondering how this rustoleum turns out sprayed is all, and what, if anyone tried, was a successful process.
Also, did anyone actually try using acetone to thin this stuff yet (rolling or spraying)? That's what the can says to do, and it says right on the can you can roll it too (and thin with acetone). Maybe that would get rid of those bubbles quicker, and there would be a faster "outer coat" drying time than the spirits... Just thinking out loud.
I know this thread mainly has to deal with saving paint by rolling, not getting overspray on everything, etc, but the title of this thread said "paint on a budget", so has anyone tried, considered, or abandoned this idea, and for what reasons, other than the obvious (don't have a garage/compressor, etc).


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Looks nice, got a side shot of it?

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Hi, I've been following this from the beginning, and I'm going to start soon(maybe this weekend). One question--if I'm going to put a coat of clear on, do I buff it out first to get the shine, then clear coat it? Also, how do I clear coat in general, does it need to be sanded?

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Hi, I've been following this from the beginning, and I'm going to start soon(maybe this weekend). One question--if I'm going to put a coat of clear on, do I buff it out first to get the shine, then clear coat it? Also, how do I clear coat in general, does it need to be sanded?




it depends on what clear you use, if you use the tremclad clear coat, i'd just prep the final coat with 800-1000, and not buff/polish, then follow with the clear about 4 coats and buff polish that like the paint, but it is not that necessary as you get really good gloss out of the paint alone.

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there are some good results from alot of people, good job guys.

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I was wondering, since this is technically "paint job on a budget", if anyone used the tintable rustoleum and sprayed it on? Like some of us out there, I do have my project in a small garage, have a compressor, and understand I need an air dryer and dessicant to avoid problems which I wouldn't have with rolling. I know a lot of us have sprayed, but I'm wondering how this rustoleum turns out sprayed is all, and what, if anyone tried, was a successful process.
Also, did anyone actually try using acetone to thin this stuff yet (rolling or spraying)? That's what the can says to do, and it says right on the can you can roll it too (and thin with acetone). Maybe that would get rid of those bubbles quicker, and there would be a faster "outer coat" drying time than the spirits... Just thinking out loud.
I know this thread mainly has to deal with saving paint by rolling, not getting overspray on everything, etc, but the title of this thread said "paint on a budget", so has anyone tried, considered, or abandoned this idea, and for what reasons, other than the obvious (don't have a garage/compressor, etc).




i've sprayed the tremclad stuff, and i was amazed at how well the paint flowed and that it was so easy to spray. there was no clogging, spitting, and it sprayed on virtually any psi setting the same with a HVLP gun. the best thing about this paint is that it is not prone to fish-eyes, and reactions, ect....as with regular automotive paints, but having mastered the rollering tequnique, i'll never spray the stuff again, the main issue with spraying in you garage is dust/dirt/hair, it is allmost impossible to avoid, and with rollering you get no dirt if you enviroment is clean. that's a huge advantage to spraying. but if you have a booth, that is a different story, then i'd spray a traditional automotive paint, the "paint job on a budget" is just that, what any joe shmoe can pull off in his garage with limited $, and not be ashamed to drive it. The best part about this paint job is that your not paranoid about driving your car, for example, just last week i opened my door right into a engine i had out of a car and chipped my paint on the lower door skin, and i hit a deer!!! all in 1 week, sure it hurt a bit, thank god i did'nt spend thousands of $ on paint, i touched it all up and you can hardly tell where the damage was from the door opening, and i buffed out the scratches from the deer on my hood, fender, and lower valance. cost me nothing. for me it's the way to go, all my cars are driven alot and hard, it's not worth it to spend huge $ on paint just to have it all stone chipped in 1 month from driving on our lovely roads.

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lets say i wanted to spray and is able to
how thin would it. same as rolling or thicker

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