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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: D-50] #2287866
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My street 69 GTX is very similar to your RR. 493 with 11.4 compression. Pump gas set up. Eddy performers ported by Modern (325 cfm @ 600 lift) custom solid roller 620 lift and 260 duration. (car has power brakes that work perfect)MSD ignition, Street Dominator with a 4150 holley 1000 cfm carb.
3.73 gears, caltrack springs, bars and shocks on stock front and rear suspension. 3960 lbs with driver.275/50/15 Hoosier drag radial
Car has gone 1.49 60 ft and 10.84 at 123.50.
I broke a 10 inch Turbo Action twice! I talked to Paul and he recommended the tightest 8 inch because it had all the heavy duty internals. (remember we have HEAVY cars) It has been in the car since about 2004 with about 15,000 street miles and well over a thousand passes. Very easy to drive on the street. I launch off idle at around 1100 RPM. Nice street/strip converter.
Oh yeah, this thing makes 494 RWHP

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: mercman1] #2287880
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Originally Posted By mercman1
My street 69 GTX is very similar to your RR. 493 with 11.4 compression. Pump gas set up. Eddy performers ported by Modern (325 cfm @ 600 lift) custom solid roller 620 lift and 260 duration. (car has power brakes that work perfect)MSD ignition, Street Dominator with a 4150 holley 1000 cfm carb.
3.73 gears, caltrack springs, bars and shocks on stock front and rear suspension. 3960 lbs with driver.275/50/15 Hoosier drag radial
Car has gone 1.49 60 ft and 10.84 at 123.50.
I broke a 10 inch Turbo Action twice! I talked to Paul and he recommended the tightest 8 inch because it had all the heavy duty internals. (remember we have HEAVY cars) It has been in the car since about 2004 with about 15,000 street miles and well over a thousand passes. Very easy to drive on the street. I launch off idle at around 1100 RPM. Nice street/strip converter.
Oh yeah, this thing makes 494 RWHP


Wow, extremely similar car/combo. That's good to know an 8" works in your car. That's the info I was hoping to find. Thanks!


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2287938
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Lots of great info guys!! Thanks for the replies. I have some good info to base a decision on.


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2287968
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My tight 8 inch TA converter will flash to maybe 34-3500. car would be faster with more stall. then more gear, then less weight, then???? Not a street car any more in my eyes.

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2288003
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I probably have the only GER Thunderbolt 3500 stall converter that GER got right! For a 904, no less. I did crack a pump drive, which I got replaced with a chrome-moly one, but my lowly GER has went 30K+ street miles and at least 400 low 11 second motor passes, plus a handfull of 10.60 at 130 - 1.42/60' passes on a 100 shot. 360LA engine, low gear set 904, 3.89 gears, 3150 race weight. I think they called it a 3500 stall 9 3/4" - I can usually hold it to about 3800-3900 on the line. I've tried 2 other "name brand" 9 1/2" 3500 stall converters, and both were tighter at idle and slowed the car down about 3 tenths. I know the next pass may be it's last, but it was the best $269 I ever spent on race car parts. We bought 2 more of them after I bought mine and GUTTED them in 12.50 cars!


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: nss guy] #2288044
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Originally Posted By nss guy
ATI 8" Treemaster





Do you drive it on the street with the 8" ATI converter ? Ron

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 383man] #2288103
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I used to drive my car on the street with 8" ATI. It's possible but probably would not do it again. I'm much happier with a 9 1/2" that flashes to 4,500 for street use.

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: Tempest] #2288110
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I'm reading this post with a lot of interest. Only issue I see with the answers is we need a better description of street driven. I have a 3300 stall ati behind my hemi dart clone ( what they recommended) and it seems tight to me BUT my street driving is 20 miles of highway to get to car shows etc. I cruise at 3200 rpm at 60 mph and my concern is slippage then. Around town I would just stay out of high gear to keep the rpms up. Thoughts please!


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: D-50] #2288112
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does a lighter car [2000-2500, 500-550hp, 4.88 gear,33" tall tire] need a tighter or looser converter to be comfortable on the street compared to an all out track car ? i realize this is a stupid question, as there are no real concrete results to compare to, but a long, long time ago, i remember something about the weight coming into play as an important ingredient in determining stall for a light weight car. insights into this thought, and help for my stupidity ?
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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: moparx] #2288143
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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2288175
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Another vote for the 9 1/2 ATI. I picked up a solid 0.30 in E.T. over the custom Gary Gonzales converter.

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: sixpackgut] #2288234
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
That cracks me up. ATI flat out refused to build me an 8" for my BB 493 because I street drive my car.


That's weird, they built my 8" converter for 25% street use, although it's been several years now.

I always used 8" converters in my 9 second big block street cars.
My current car is 95% street and I'm hoping to squeak into a 10.99 with a 9.5" Dynamic converter.


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 3ddart] #2288236
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Originally Posted By 3ddart
I'm reading this post with a lot of interest. Only issue I see with the answers is we need a better description of street driven. I have a 3300 stall ati behind my hemi dart clone ( what they recommended) and it seems tight to me BUT my street driving is 20 miles of highway to get to car shows etc. I cruise at 3200 rpm at 60 mph and my concern is slippage then. Around town I would just stay out of high gear to keep the rpms up. Thoughts please!


What size case is your 3300 stall? I think you'll be fine, my 9.5" Dynamic is kinda loose and I drive it around town with 3.23 gears, on the highway I'm around 2450 RPM's at 60mph.


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2288241
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I drove this car quite a bit on the street with an 8" ATI custom Treemaster and 4.30 gears.

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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2288257
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Ultimate Converter built me a tight 9" converter that is great on the street, but will flash stall to about 5,000 rpm.
For the track it is likely too tight to really hit hard (foot brake racing), but I wanted it tight so it drive nice on the street, which it does.

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 383man] #2288409
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Originally Posted By 383man
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ATI 8" Treemaster





Do you drive it on the street with the 8" ATI converter ? Ron


yes I drive it on the street, not too much anymore. My street tires, 30x13 ET streets are about shot. The car drives very good with the 8", not much different driving in town than my 10" tci from years ago. The big difference is when you really launch it, yea it flashes to about 5400.The 10" just doesn't flash as high. No heat problems with a good cooler.

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Though you disavow Dynamic/Lupo that is what i have run for 7 (?) Years or so . Daily driver / bracket racer . It is a 5100 stall , i think 9 1/2" maybe 9
Has gone from low 11s behind a 440 to mid 10s behind current 505
I do around 6-8000 street/highway miles per year, and race monthly . Longest 1 way trip was 12 hours straight , race and then back .
I wish there was more racing here .

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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #2288427
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i live in pa not too far from GER and Dynamic. had a GER and don't know if they are still around. i have the dynamic in for a while now in a low 10sec duster with a 440. it flashes around 5200 to 5400. no issues and i just had it updated after it was about 6 years old. only thing i can compare it to is the GER and well i'm sure the ger would slow my car down but i neverbroke it. and i call it old faithfull.

Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: dmking] #2288722
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Been using 10" Turbo Action and 9.5 PTC convertors. No problems with either.


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Re: What converters you guys using in 10 sec street/strip cars [Re: nss guy] #2288744
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ATI 8" Treemaster





Do you drive it on the street with the 8" ATI converter ? Ron


yes I drive it on the street, not too much anymore. My street tires, 30x13 ET streets are about shot. The car drives very good with the 8", not much different driving in town than my 10" tci from years ago. The big difference is when you really launch it, yea it flashes to about 5400.The 10" just doesn't flash as high. No heat problems with a good cooler.



Thanks. wave Ron

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