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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: PorkyPig] #2286536
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Originally Posted By PorkyPig
Originally Posted By Locomotion
NHRA said "no" only because it doesn't have a legal roll cage for the 9.99 seconds and faster rules. OEM safety features aren't enough at those speeds. That can be fixed, but will add weight.

Very cool car, but FCA goes to all the trouble to hype this thing up and post the performance at the track, and the car as sold isn't legal to run those times.

This makes me think their target audience is rich car collectors who will never get within a mile of a track's burnout box, rich guys who will be adding it to their expensive toy collection (and probably be the first ones to total them before the guys even make it to their garages), and... rich drug dealers who will flog them to death on the street before they have to report to their next quarterly parole officer meeting.

But I could be wrong.


I bet the legalities of selling a car with a roll cage is something that prevented this from happening. Even in a low speed crash, on the street, your head hits that roll bar and serious injury can occur. It's a liability.


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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286575
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Sounds like there's a new market for a bolt in cage for one of these..if it will pass tech. Did they do anything to the frames of these cars from the factory, like tie the subframes together? I have to wonder if these things will start buckling the B pillars...

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286586
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The cage would mess with the crash zones in the car which would make it tough to make legal with the feds.


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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: Bad340fish] #2286618
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It would have no problem being able to run at the 8 tracks that I have run at. NHRA does not own all drag strips.


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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: Polarapete] #2286623
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The problem is that the dummy may be driving the Demon and take out someone that is much smarter in another car. I wonder what it costs to insure one of these things?

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286625
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Any prices on what one might cost

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286639
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I imagine there will be some great sale prices on the Hellcat now.

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286651
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Not sure it will affect the prices of NEW Hellcats but ya gotta figure the supply of used will increase because of those that can afford and demand the pinnacle of performance.

Increased supply on the used market means lower prices. How much lower??? Who knows...

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: gp900] #2286652
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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: scottb] #2286671
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Originally Posted By scottb
Any prices on what one might cost


I read earlier that it will be $85,000 and will have a 60,000 mile warranty. Way out of my price range.


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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286702
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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2286774
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Not sure it will affect the prices of NEW Hellcats but ya gotta figure the supply of used will increase because of those that can afford and demand the pinnacle of performance.

Increased supply on the used market means lower prices. How much lower??? Who knows...


I've been watching a B-5 Hellcat since it arrived at my dealer last year. It is down $13K under list now, and no takers. I am hoping it drops another $10K and it will be mine.


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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: slantzilla] #2286855
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This whole deal has been a great piece of marketing by Dodge. Articles about these Demon's has been all over my Facebook feed the last couple of days.
GM will come out with a Camaro that will make more, and so it will go. 1000 + HP cars from the factory will eventuate I'm sure.


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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: LA360] #2286867
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GM has the copo camaro that has a 427 and is said to have 1000hp. There is a vid of it running a 8.99 at milan. 3 different power plants available for that car.

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286878
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Dave, is that the Hennessy car? Upgrades are a minimum $55K over the price of a new Camaro, but it does make 1000Hp.
The Demon has to be the most comfortable 9 second car in history.

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It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: poboyengineering] #2286889
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Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: mopar dave] #2286895
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Heres another.https://youtu.be/6qItrfYVw-E

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286901
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If the car weighs 4300lbs and a light driver weighs 150lbs, to run a 140mph you need almost exactly 1000hp... something is a amiss. Is the car lighter than 4300, more powerful, or both???

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: 73DAD] #2286904
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The copo is a purpose built race car and the demon is a purpose built street strip car. My point was i think there all 1000hp or real close.https://youtu.be/3vD6A6NxySQ

Re: Demon Officially Announced [Re: BobR] #2286905
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I'd guess it's like the hellcat and true horsepower is under rated.

As far as hellcats go, there were 3 challengers on the local dealer lot and a charger... my guess, people are waiting for the demon. I read only 3k being sold in the US this year.


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